NAACP chairman compares GOP to Nazis

I'm talking about the era after the civil rights movement. The NAACP has become a mouthpiece for the Democratic party. The thing is, blacks hold a huge bargaining chip. The GOP would kill for more of the black vote. However, rather than using that as a chip to achieve more gains for blacks, they remain faithful to a party that hasn't really done anything to advance their cause in a long time.

What exactly has the Democratic party done to deserve this type of undying support from the NAACP?

 

Very interesting and how true.

Every member of congress should also read this. John Stewart did a series of clips where everybody kept invoking Hitler and it was shocking how often. There were like 6 consecutive clips he aired.

Anyway, NAACP is not perfect, just like Republicans, but they have been unmeasurably important to the progress of civil rights in America. Anybody who just generalizes the entire organization as worthless because of the statement of the one dude is not in touch with the broader reality.

 

If you're referring to me, I've had this opinion for a long time. I feel the same way about LULAC and all of the other "race organizations." A long time ago they stopped caring about bettering the lives of those they represent.

 

Well, a quick Google search doesn't yield many results. But there is this arrticle coming from a college newspaper that seems to confirm the story.

I don't know how much credibility should be given to a college newspaper.

 

Lesser of two evils. While the Dems don't have a great track record as of late, the Repubs ACTIVELY try to undermine the plight of blacks in America.

eg, the Repubs trying to abolish afirmative action. How does that help blacks? Some repubs argue that it DOES help. But the spirit is NOT to help blacks. The spirit is to HELP WHITES who feel they are getting short changed and maybe as a long term sympton...it might help blacks. Why should blacks support an effort to help whites who are getting discriminated against when blacks make up like 70% of innmates on death row and the poverty rate amoung blacks is far higher than whites? Once we equalize these #'s, then maybe blacks will be more open to the idea of helping whites to their own detriment.

 

Please don't tell me you think Affirmative Action is actually a good thing for minorities. All it does is lower expectations for us all the while promoting us to positions quicker than we should be (in order to fill quotas) which inevitably leads to failure and the justification of labeling us as "inferior" or "incapable."

 

Well they both like to have spiffy new haircuts.

 

While the GOP is dominated by whites and while they are leaning towards the fascist side of the political scale; I don't think they have quite reach the genocidal efficiency of the Nazis yet.

Calling the GOP Nazis or Capitol Hill a plantation isn't going to win votes. It will get your name in the paper, but I doubt it will change the minds of any swing voters come election time. Until the Democrats pull their heads out of their a$$e$ and get some backbone; the GOP is going to stay in power. I consider a good chunk of the Democrats now GOP Lite.

 

AA is one of the worst things. All it does is continue the cycle of discrimination. It's ironic that the same people calling for Israel to stop the cycle of violence by not hitting back at terrorists are usually the same people calling for AA even though it just continues the cycle of discrimination.

true its nonwhites who makeup 70% of inmates on death row.

 

bigtexxx,

while I normally would agree with you on the topic of AA, it would only be inappropriate if if everyone was on the same level playing field, everyone went to the same schools that had access to the same resources (i.e. urban public schools being as good as schools in wealthy White neighborhoods), and we lived in a color blind society. However, as things stand now, there is ample evidence that supports the idea that we're still by and large a race-conscious society, and that we do shortchange people based on race in many situations (housing, jobs, etc.). So given the imprefect society we live in, it's absolutely necessary to have AA, may be it won't be necessary 20-30 years down the line when Whites are just another minority group. Until then, however, it's quiet necessary to make up for the social imbalance that is strongly unfavorable to minorities, especially Blacks.

 

Halfbreed, does your name suggest some sort of issue with minority groups in the US?

We understand that you are loyal to conservative spin and the GOP, but is it possible that blacks are not as stupid in their understanding of what party helps them as you seem to suggest.

The Demos have supported: affirmative action, health care for all, the student loan program that the GOP is presently cutting, Medicaid which the GOP is also presently cutting, larger tax cuts for low and moderate income folks rather for upper income folks etc.

All of these have disproportionate effects on the well being of minorities. These are the facts and the minorities are not stupid because they don't accept conservative spin that none of this matters, on these issues of vital importance to them.

 

I want to point out that at least when it comes to College quotas, AA has hurt other minorities more than it has hurt whites. The standards for an Asian who wants to goto an Ivy League school is much higher than if someone was Hispanic or black. I am not speculating, I went through this when I was in high school.

 

I think you should change "minorities" to "African Americans" Most Asians vote Republican.

 

The Democrats have written and voted more for issues that do advance the causes that many blacks are concerned with. They have voted to keep medicaid payments while the GOP has voted to cut them. They have proposed and voted for more education funding. Democrats have pushed for increases in the minimum wage. Democrats have pushed for more health care spending and a move toward single payer coverage. The Dems have pushed for cheaper drugs. The GOP has opposed such measures, and recently sided with pharm. companies in the latest overall.

The GOP has cut medicaid, botched the healthcare bill etc.

The GOP has cut taxes from the rich, meanwhile the Democrats have proposed taxes that ease the burden more for the middle class.

It seems to me that on the issues that concern a large percentage of African Americans the Dems have worked toward those goals far more than the GOP. If the GOP really wants those votes then perhaps they can start changing their policy direction.

It seems to me that Democrats

 

I agree with you on that part, I think the whole approach could be overhauled to have less impact on other minorities...but Hispanics do get their fair share of help to get their education, the only sad part is that many Hispanics aren't interested in college education, period, and not necessarily because they can't afford it...there are tons of scholarship programs specifically targeting Hispanics; same thing with African-Americans, I wish more of them placed higher priority on college education. But I think that will come with time, it's still a transition period.

 

Ask how Dubya got into Yale? Wasn't that some AA for wealthy whites? Did Dubya bump someone who was more qualified to be admitted in Yale by any chance? Or someone who was way ahead of him on the waiting list to get into Air National Guard?

 

Exactly, but how do you address that when they're predominantely from poor backgrounds, go to crappy urban public schools, and don't get near the quality education many middle-class Whites and Asians and others get?

That's my point here: the playing field is NOT leveled, how do we fix that first and foremost and THEN we can talk about whether AA is fair or not...

 

:nods: It's something that needs to be addressed on the elementary and middle school level. Teens of all colors who have worked hard for their 95 averages and 1400 SAT scores shouldn't have to fight tooth and nail with someone who has a 88 Average and 1200 SAT score.