NAACP Atlanta Head: Vick Would be Treated Better if He Killed a Person

Good.

 

Is that an order? No thanks, why would I when you always steer your point when it gets inconvenient.

 

I haven't steered my point yet, I've provided tons of examples, major provided one. and I responded to the oj example, lets not forget that race DID have a lot to do with that case.

 

a star QB is going to jail. he ran a dog-fighting/gambling ring across state lines. he will likely be in a federal pen for about 18 months. THEN we'll find out how quickly the league will allow him back in....

all that assuming the state doesn't move forward with their own charges of animal cruelty based on abusing and killing 9 dogs which could put him away

i'm sorry...but that story....from the highest of the high among current stars in the most popular sports league in America...with the second highest contract in the league, if i'm not mistaken....with endorsement deals for the big names like Nike and Gatorade....to spending an undetermined amount of time behind bars and dealing with the possibility of a commissioner banning him for a considerable period of time, if not forever.

i can't THINK of another story like this. outside of Shakespeare

 

What about Don Imus saying "nappy headed ho"?

 

i don't think Don Imus had nearly the kind of presence Vick did throughout the country.

 

ahhh...got it. i was just addressing the point that pgabriel was making that the story was overblown.

personally, i think there's a reason for the expression: "don't make a federal case out of it!!"

 

it hasnt...have you heard 610 radio (or other stations for that matter). People have called in and been defending vick based on the "hunting" argument. I dont know about national tv since i havent watched much lately and if i do i steer clear from that trash as much as possible. But its no surprise the media leans towards the side of obeying the law and not abusing animals...not to mention illegal gambling.

 

my point is proven, shakespeare, wow

edit: actually I understand where you're coming from with the fall of a star angle, but I'm just refering to the out rage behind dogfighting.

 

No, I just think that "nappy headed ho" sounds like Shakespeare.

 

then we're making the same point? i think my problem is i'm having a hard time understanding your point. i promise i'm not trying to be intentionally dense...it just comes natural

 

media overblows everything...anna nicole smith anyone? paris hilton? etc

 

Wait - now race can be a factor, but level of celebrity and criminal intent can't be? Here's your original argument again:

my only argument is that killing someone gets you less coverage than killing dogs. YOU have to qualify the argument.


Now you're qualifying it?

 

so the vick coverage is because he's a celebrity and killing dogs isn't worse than any crime killing a person.

i agree

 

of course it's because he's a celebrity. that's what makes it news-worthy. without him, this case isn't known about outside of virginia.

 

Just maybe to get a better handle on where you are coming from, have you ever watched Animal Cops on Animal Planet? Does that show upset you or do you not understand what all the fuss is?

I can tell you honestly that if anybody tortured and killed my pets for fun, I would murder them and for the rest of my life believe it to be justified.

 

For the hunting thing to apply, any hunter that missed the deer would be strangled, electrocuted, pummeled, and shot. Any good hunter would be forcibly bred. Any good female hunter would be raped. Any deer that was just wounded would be strangled, electrocuted, pummeled, and shot some more.

 

I think the Paris Hilton examples made in this thread are the most appropriate comparisons. One doesn't receive bad press in proportion to the heniousness of the crime. The media needs to sell ads and will print whatever grabs the most readership. It's not like the media is there to dole out appropriate justice in the form of volume and intensity of bad press. Vick is the victim of a perfect storm of elements that sell newspapers:

Celebrity: check
Scandal: dogfighting, check
High stakes: millions of dollars, career, prison time, check
Depravity: torturing and killing man's best friend, check
Sex: the only thing missing

Compare that to a Paris Hilton DWI:

Celebrity: check
Scandal: Daddy's little girl run amuck, check
High stakes: money, career, potential warning sign of deeper problems that could end in overdose or suicide, check
Depravity: Drug abuse, alcoholism, anorexia, check
Sex: one big ole check

There should be no expectation of justice or fairness here. Vick's story is different, interesting, a bit different, scandalous; that is all. That there is a big debate about whether this treatment is based on his race (and/or the racial affiliation of dogfighting) just adds another element of interest to sell more papers.