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NAACP Atlanta Head: Vick Would be Treated Better if He Killed a Person

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by hotballa, Aug 22, 2007.

  1. Bandwagoner

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    Well it basically comes from how we generally decide morals.

    One argument for deciding what is moral is benefit to society.
    Killing a deer fufills alot of needs. Tradition, food, sport, and often times bonding between families. The deer is not tortured. The better the hunter the quicker the kill. So basic hedonism would give you

    Good things about deer hunting > bad things about deer hunting (deer dies)since the positive impact to society is worth the deer's death.

    for dogfighting the equation would be

    Good things
    enjoyment for people watching
    Bad things
    gambling
    dogs suffers and dies
    humans watch this violence and suffer as a result

    So good things < bad things

    This is also the difference between making a dog run on a treadmill to train him for a fight vs making an ox pull a plough. Both impact the animal the same. The ox however helps provide food for humans. The dog's suffering does nothing positive.

    Also I have worked rodeos since I was a kid. Please tell me what we do to animals that is so bad?
     
  2. Mr. Clutch

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    I dont think you can get white people there. But if you can somehow paint them as racist, like John Rocker, they are toast.
     
  3. Bandwagoner

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    I never even knew who Robert Blake was before he killed someone.

    Never heard of his crappy show.
     
  4. pgabriel

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    thanks for the insightful comments
     
  5. MR. MEOWGI

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    Yeah, I don't recall the NAACP supporting Don Imus.
     
  6. Rocket River

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    He had other people/Groups for that

    Rocket River
     
  7. Rocket River

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  8. Mr. Clutch

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    Imus lost his job and endorsements, but Ray Lewis didn't.

    Clearly, it is worse to be a murderer than a racist.

    America cares more about people's feelings than about black men's lives.
     
  9. Refman

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    And what about Rae Carruth? He got TONS of negative media coverage, and iirc, a hefty prison term.
     
  10. MR. MEOWGI

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    According to the NAACP, saying "nappy headed ho" is worse than torturing and killing a large number of dogs.
     
  11. SWTsig

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    clearly the naacp will advocate for any black person, regardless of the crime. this is why so many people consider them a joke of an organization.... i mean, why would you even attempt to defend vick in this case? he clearly knew what he was doing, and that it was both illegal and against the NFL's bragaining agreement/code of conduct. and what exactly is there to defend? it's not like he's going to prison for 15 years, the NFL hasn't banned him (yet, at least).

    how bout they just let vick man up to his idiocy and leave it be.... what a novel idea.
     
  12. Rocket River

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    If they don't who will?
    I mean . . . this country has a history of railroading minorities
    That is a fact
    while we wait 50 yrs to pick up klansmen that killed people
    blatantly and obviously and pretty much brag about it

    I have my issues with the NAACP
    but
    Who else would stand up for those that are being railroaded
    or wrongly accused
    or just having things exaggerated against them
    and they are minorities? Who?

    What organizations will defend the defenseless?
    we would *like* to think that Law and Order is Fair and Right
    but
    the reality is . .that just is not true. . . .
    If you are poor/minority/etc . .you get less justice than the Rich/Privilidged

    Rocket RIver
    Paris/Linsey/Britney/Nicole/Etc
     
  13. Mr. Clutch

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    Railroaded, defensless, wrongly accused.

    Words that do not apply to Vick.

    Rich, privledged.

    Words that do apply to Vick.


    Right, the media never exaggerates their problems.

    Clearly, judging from the media, a white girl getting drunk is worse than murder.
     
  14. Rocket River

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    Did you not see the quote it was in response to? Was Vick in that portion of the Quote?



    that is the point . . .I am so sick of bull**** crimes that are meaningless
    Vick is meaningless . . ..
    Lohan is meaningless
    Paris is meaningless
    Bonds is meaningless

    Seriously . . . DogFighting is such an epidemic that until this I and most of america had no idea about it

    I know this is a sports board but i am suffering from Vick Overload.
    I avoid this thread for the most part because. . nothing worth seeing

    Vick is not Capone . . . no matter what PETA says
    Killing Dogs/ANIMALS cruelly is inhumane and ridiculous
    but
    Let's not kid ourselves into thinking that various Corporations aren't doing the same thing . . legally . . .just ask PETA they will tell you which ones.

    Rocket River
     
  15. MR. MEOWGI

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    Stop trying to justify it.
     
  16. FranchiseBlade

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    It sounds like the NAACP guy was saying that murderers and rapists get off too easy, not really that what Vick did was ok.

    I would agree with that.
     
  17. HillBoy

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    Whether it's right or wrong doesn't really matter. It is what it is: a fact of life that we all live with. Life is not fair. That's why I've taught my children to always understand the consequences of their actions and if those actions are stupid or God forbid, criminal, then to expect the fallout to be especially harsh on them due to their racial status. As I posted earlier, if you live your life in the proper manner, then you won't end up having to deal with the emotional firestorm that Mike Vick is now dealing with.
     
  18. HillBoy

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    His Baretta TV show spawned a saying that Mike Vick should have taken to heart: "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time...".
     
  19. HillBoy

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    But that's because he WAS GUILTY. It had nothing to do with his race but more to do with the fact that he was a gutless coward who killed a young woman just because she was pregnant with his child. He deserved every single piece of negative media coverage he received.
     
  20. HillBoy

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    Actually a novel idea would be for you to get the facts straight here. It was the head of the Atlanta NAACP who came out in support of Vick. The acting head of the NATIONAL NAACP came out right after that and clearly distanced the organization from the foolish remarks of the Atlanta branch. In fact, his position on the complete wrongness of Vick's actions was right in line with that of the majority of Americans.
     

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