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N.Y. judge strikes down gay marriage ban

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rockets34Legend, Feb 4, 2005.

  1. NJRocket

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    Let them get married....the bigger problem is when they want kids.
     
  2. Mulder

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    OK, I'll bite. Why is this a problem?
     
  3. thegary

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    uh oh, i think i know what's coming :rolleyes:
     
  4. NJRocket

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    because its unfair to the kid...if a homosexual wants to make a choice to be homosexual, thats fine...but to make that choice for the kid, when the world is cruel enough as it is, is unfair to the kid...IMO
     
  5. mc mark

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    Homosexuality is not a choice.

    Homophobia is...

    Carry on…
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    Just because they are having kids doesn't mean they are choosing whether the child will be homosexual or not.

    Presuming for the sake of argument that being homosexual was a choice and the parents could somehow choose it for them, I have a couple of questions.

    Do you remember when your parents chose for you to be heterosexual? Was it hard or easy for you when they chose that you would be heterosexual? Did you resent having the choice to be heterosexual taken away from you?
     
  7. NJRocket

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    what planet are you on? I never said anything like that.....the choice they are making for the kid is to give him a father that wears lipstick and carries a pocketbook....or a mother that has balls....if you subject a child to this situation, and ask him/her to try and fit in at school, you are creating a very rough situation for the child...and thats unfair.
     
  8. thegary

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    see what i mean mulder?
     
  9. NJRocket

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    if you disagree...thats fine...but dont make it like this shouldnt be a concern
     
  10. Mulder

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    Let me make sure I got this right.

    You would rather that a child possibly not be adopted than have loving parents that happen to be gay?

    It is a fact that there are more kids that need to be adopted than parents that have an ability or willingness to adopt. That cannot be disputed. But you think that this pool of potential parents should be restricted further, to save the kid from possible scrutiny from peers because their parents are gay?
     
  11. thegary

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    i disagree and it isn't a concern. in fact, i think it's great to teach kids about tolerance from an early age. i guarantee those kids will grow up with a healthy "concern" for "'others." what's wrong with that?
     
  12. NJRocket

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    Not completely...adoption is different for the reasons you cite. You are definitely giving a child a better way of life by taking him/her out of a foster home and placing them with gay parents.

    My issue is bringing newborns into the world and then growing up with gay parents
     
  13. NJRocket

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    in your opinion, it isnt a concern....i think you are being naive...

    tolerance and having concern for others is something kids learn from their parents...when kids are teased repeatdly at school, you dont learn tolerance...you learn to hate
     
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    :D
     
  15. NJRocket

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    then what is it?
     
  16. thegary

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    perhaps, but i'm not concerned ;)

    children will find other ways to make fun of your kids, don't worry :p
     
  17. Mulder

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    Kids make fun of kids for lots of reasons. I know a few very well adjusted people that have gay parents. In fact they had a better handle on their lives than most teens did.
    Using your line of logic you could make the same argument why poor people really shouldn't have children. I think you are making a mountain out of a mole hill, but that's your opinion and you are entitled to it.
     
  18. NJRocket

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    Many times, poor people live in the same area, and thus attend the same schools as other poor people...i dont know thatthere are many areas to live where you can surround yourself with gay parents
     
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