Who was guarding Roger Mason Jr against NOH? Who was guarding Garnett in the 4th quarter? Typically, you can get away with one liability on defense. James Harden is our designated liability on defense, because he isn't much good there and he needs to carry our offensive load. Sometimes you can get away with two liabilities on defense. But you can't get away with playing three liabilities on D. That's why I don't understand the 4th quarter small ball line-up. You only have two plus defenders in Parsons and Lin, and Toney Douglas is just above average to slightly above average (depending on the match-up). Asik, our best post defender and rebounder, is on the bench. And without Asik, we don't have good screens. It's one thing to play small when your alternatives are a disinterested Dalembert and an ageing Camby. But when you have a 26-yr old $8M/yr investment in Asik, why not develop him in crunch time as well.
Technically, Lin is part of our most effective defensive line up with a decent sampling of minutes. http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id...rs-golden-state-warriors-more-nba-best-lineup This is aside from Lin's high steals per game, blocks per game, rebounding numbers, and solid defensive rating. So, unless you're arguing that Lin's actual numbers are excuses, I'm not sure what you're arguing...
You develop his FT shooting and his execution in the offseason Asik couldn't make shots FTs or in games. He is a poor finisher down low. You should know that
The stats about Lin .... he might be one of the better defenders on the team but league wise he is about average that shows in the overall numbers of the opponents' score
You already did. I just pointed out the statistical data. Asik is a defensive player in the line up. We point him out regularly. Harden has defensive lapses. Those are also pointed out. Lin is one of the better defenders on this team (though part of that speaks to the generally poor defense of the team in general), and you can't ignore the impact of individuals on offense or defense. It's a team game, but the team is still made up of individuals.
I am not going to discuss it with you. I started out with Parsons and Harden. Again on of the better defenders on this team - is league average
Your opinion of Lin being an "average" defender is just that, an opinion. According to 82games, Lin's defensive rating of 104 is 142/490 NBA players in Defensive rating. 14/72 PG's in Defensive rating. 6th among starting PG's in Defensive rating. http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2013_advanced.html And his Synergy stats place him solidly in the top 10 PG's in PPP allowed. I think that's at least above average for his position, and even in the NBA. Everyone is entitled to their opinion of course. :grin:
there is no above average.... because you factor in all scrubs that a starting PG won't face because they are riding the pine never seeing the light if you factor in only the starters 30 starters and maybe some of the 6th men... then he is average or even below
You mean like this? http://www.hoopdata.com/defrebstats.aspx?team=%&type=pg&posi=PG&yr=2013&gp=10&mins=20 Lin vs PG's playing at least 10 games, 20 mins per game, 7th best Defensive Efficiency rating. Or you mean this... http://www.hoopdata.com/defrebstats.aspx?team=%&type=pg&posi=%&yr=2013&gp=10&mins=20 Lin vs ALL positions playing at least 10 games, 20 mins per game, 21st best Defensive Efficiency rating. How specific would you like to get?
aight .... I factored in the offense as well I am talking about overall D and how much impact on player can have. Asik had the most early on but his offensive output has been bad in recent games Lin is getting better but he is still nowhere his Linsanity days when he was scoring 20+ppg and having 8 apg. He might be guarding a lot of PGs now but he is not actually shutting down anyone because we need him too. We have too many liabilities on the team. Offensively and defensively All I am saying is the team has more potential but they are not constantly tapping into that.
I'm not going to argue that Lin's offense has been consistently great this season because it hasn't. As for "shutting down" PG's, it just doesn't happen. The fastest PG's can't be completely shut down by individual defense, only by team Defense. Lin gets his licks in defensively, but there are physical limits to what you can do as an individual. No matter how good you are individually, you're going to get caught on a pick, crossed over, or simply switched off to another player. The Spurs have a top five defense, and Lin still put up 38. And Lin isn't the fastest PG in the NBA. All Lin can really do is reduce their effectiveness. Beyond that it's up to Team Defense.
The defense isn't the issue. Our defense has been perpetually average for some time now. This was true when we played Asik a ton of minutes, still true when we played a ton of small ball. The difference is that we're not hitting our 3s, and we're not running as much. Possibly some of it is opponents adjusting. But also part of it could simply be our shooters have tired legs. But our defense has been consistent through all this time.
Almighty torocan, where can I find the table in which each row corresponds to a game and each column is a certain team stats like number of defensive rebounds... It's a like the boxscore with the scores replaced by the number of rebounds or steals...
