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Mystery Priest performs miracle in Missouri

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by ScolaIsBallin, Aug 11, 2013.

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  1. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    It's just something I'll never understand. I can imagine being in Moore, OK, as I'm looking at my destroyed house and greiving over my dead kid. What would I think if I hear someone say "God is great" because their kid made it and their house didn't have any damage? To me, it's just a trite phrase that is honestly used very unsympathetically at times.
     
  2. SwoLy-D

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    I will accept this. :eek: Well said.
     
  3. Dairy Ashford

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    Glad that was resolved, kudos to the priest for doing what journalists seemed unwilling or unable to do. Doesn't negate the fallacy of miracles or the dubiousness of the story as originally reported, and as originally posted in a less reputable news service.
     
  4. MadMax

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    Completely agreed. Many of my favorite parts of the Bible are the ones where the speaker is angry with God asking him where in the hell he is given all the crap that's going on. Or Jesus, himself, on the cross asking God why he abandoned him. There's an honesty about that which I really appreciate.
     
  5. across110thstreet

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    great story, uplifting indeed.

    but what was the miracle that was performed?
     
  6. BigBenito

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    I still don't understand Job. :eek:
     
  7. Dairy Ashford

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    All you've done here is falsely attribute insecurity to a lack of belief in a specific religious concept, attack people for taking a particular side in a forum debate, and dishonestly conflate disbelief in angels and miracles with a lack of compassion for accident victims. Like all the dreadful threads and rancid offensive comments you post about interracial dating and other topics, you demonstrate once again you're only capable of insults and hyperbole.
     
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    Doesn't scientific law require observation as well as experimentation? Can you OBSERVE evolution? No, not in a human life time scale. So in essence some science DOES require faith. Yes, science most definitely takes faith.
     
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    If you are that secure of anything you believe in, there is no need to go after different mindsets with the disdain that you plainly show. Oh you feel insulted i called you a douche for being so condescending? Sorry to have spoiled the 2 pages of pleasure you got out of being a condescending dick.
     
  10. oelman44

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    After reading through this thread

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    Now I remember why I never visit the D&D
     
  11. hotballa

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    My thoughts exactly. This is why we cant hav nice things
     
  12. BamBam

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    One that most of us can agree on is that this thread was somehow kept in the hangout and wasn't sent to the D&D. My only guess is that more people needed to read this thread for one reason or another, as you said, this is a great story...;)
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  13. CometsWin

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    Record keeping,fossil record, youtube
     
  14. Cowboy_Bebop

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    Religion is ****ing funny. If something good happen they all think it's the work of GOD and praising GOD. But when **** happens they are all quiet.
     
  15. Dairy Ashford

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    Your problem is that I have and express a differing point of view which you falsely attribute to insecurity. True to form, you've had two posts in this thread; no arguments of any kind, just insults.
     
  16. Rocketman95

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    If you are that secure of anything you believe in, there is no need to go after different mindsets with the disdain that you plainly show.
     
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    Do you watch, listen to, or read any comedy TV, books, movies, etc.? :cool:
     
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    Please let me know where this planet is so that I can invest in a dental clinic there.
     
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    err, yes... :confused:
     
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    I had a grandmother (raised in a Catholic orphange, became Lutheran because of my grandfather) who had an extremely supserstitious belief in a very active God in her daily life. My grandmother had a nightmarish childhood as an orphan in Depression-Era Chicago, and I'm sure her faith was the painkiller for some serious psychological trauma that was left untreated.

    When I was young I dismissed it as harmless, but as she got older, it became more and more outrageous. She'd spin out of control on a freeway in a flash flood and tell the police that angels lifted her car and turned it to avoid hitting another car. Angels would remind her to feed her dog, and prayers would always be rewarded with action.

    When I'd tell her about things like my father abusing his girlfriend, she'd look me in the eye and tell me that all problems could be fixed with prayer. No reason to actually take any actions in life -- God would fix everything. Just pray. I found that to be extremely irresponsible. She dispensed bad advice to people and encouraged a complete outsourcing of all responsibility to a God that "works in mysterious ways." It wasn't just nutty -- it was absolutely unethical.

    Obviously not every religious person is that simplistic and superstitious about their faith, but I have very little patience for magic, be it religious or palmistry or astrology or any other kind of irrational nonsense. I understand that religious officiaries play a positive rolein the lives of their parishoners, but if it was up to me, I'd require that every rabbi, priest and imman take at least an Associates degree in social work so that they are actually qualified experts in people's domestic problems.
     

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