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My Problem With Mike Huckabee

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  1. torque

    torque Member
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    This is a little bit ridiculous: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news...rthodox+Jew+Hosts+Presidential+Candidate.html

    (By Shmuel Hakoton) Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, a Republican presidential contender, gave a stump speech and answered questions today at the home of New Hampshire State Representative Jason Bedrick, the first Orthodox Jew elected to the NH House of Representatives.

    “People often tell me that they agree with what Huckabee has to say, but don’t think he can win,” said Bedrick, “Not only can he win, he must win if we’re going to put this country back on track.”

    Bedrick also noted that though Huckabee isn’t a household name yet, he believes that he will be. “No one had ever heard of the last governor from Hope, Arkansas, Bill Clinton, the summer before he was elected. Huckabee is polling well in all the early states; he’s a long shot but he’s the best shot we’ve got.”

    New Hampshire is the home of the first primary in the nation and it has a history of picking lesser-known candidates who go on to become President.

    In response to a question about the Middle East from Rabbi Moshe Bleich of the Wellesley-Weston Chabad Center, Gov. Huckabee expressed frustration with Israeli politicians who wanted to give away the Golan Heights and firmly opposed dividing Jerusalem.

    When asked about a Palestinian state, Gov. Huckabee stated that he supports creating a Palestinian state, but believes that it should be formed outside of Israel. He named Egypt and Saudi Arabia as possible alternatives, noting that the Arabs have far more land than the Israelis and that it would only be fair for other Arab nations to give the Palestinians land for a state, rather than carving it out of the tiny Israeli state.

    Gov. Huckabee, who has visited Israel nine times, also expressed support for moving the American embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, and stressed the importance of making America energy independent in ten years for both environmental and national security reasons. “We just can’t continue to be dependent on Saudi oil,” explained Huckabee, “I want to be able to tell the Saudis that we need their oil about as much as we need their sand.”

    A crowd of over seventy people came to meet Gov. Huckabee and listen to him answer questions while they enjoyed kosher pastries and coffee. Gov. Huckabee also spoke of the need to overhaul the tax code, eliminating the IRS and replacing all taxes on income and production with a consumption tax.

    Gov. Mike Huckabee served as governor of Arkansas for ten years and he is a past chairman of the National Governors’ Association. Rep. Jason Bedrick is a first-term state representative serving the towns of Windham and Salem, NH. He is also the gabbai of the Wellesley-Weston Chabad synagogue in Wellesley, MA.
     
  2. JeopardE

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    It's kinda amusing.

    Those on the far left are worried about Huckabee because they think he's a Christian nut who might nuke other countries in the name of God.

    Those on the far right are worried about Huckabee because they think he's a Carter-like pacifist nut who might be dangerously soft on foreign policy.
     
  3. Deckard

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    I'm worried about Huckabee because he appears to be completely clueless when it comes to foreign policy. The statement you highlighted about a Palestinian state shows that very clearly. What on earth is he saying? That Israel should have all of the West Bank? If we are ever going to have peace in the region, that is a complete non-starter. Honestly... I thought he had more brains than that. Apparently he's complete incurious about what happens beyond our shores, or is really that dumb. Either way, not someone you want running the country.

    Wow.



    Impeach Bush.
     
  4. Refman

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    If you are Muslim and state that you will govern in the ways that Allah would want for his people, it would probably be just fine. If you state that you believe that the infidels should be pushed to the sea, then you probably wouldn't get elected.
     
  5. Refman

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    You should be totally honest on this one. You don't want him running the country because he is not a Democrat.
     
  6. Deckard

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    No, Refman, I don't want him running the country because he is, in my opinion, a mistake waiting to happen, just like Bush was. That he's a Republican is coincidental. ;)



    Impeach Bush.
     
  7. deepblue

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    The man is just a fruitcake.
     
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    Sounds like Huckabee might be my favorite candidate. I was sad Sam Brownback dropped out, but Huckabee may be the best of what's remaining.
     
  9. Deckard

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    What do you like about him?




    Impeach Bush.
     
  10. SamFisher

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    Yeah, uh the phrase "i was so sad Sam Brownback dropped out" should clue you in on this.

    Personally, I think Brownback and some his comments on gay marriage, among other things, are so reprehensible, I wouldn't give Sam Brownback a spare condom in a Haitian whorehouse. But whatever floats one's boat, I suppose.
     
  11. Deckard

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    I was trying to be polite, Sam.



    Impeach Goofus and His Dildo.
     
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    Maybe you should watch him and what his views and goals are, rather than read from democratic blogs.

    He has a lot of great ideas. But I like him primarily for his support of the Flat Tax, which I've talked about on here for over a year. I've seen zero democratic politicians say much of anything concerning our current tax code, which is an absolute joke.
     
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    I've seen a lot of him, Fatty, and the only blog I read is ClutchFans. Seriously. I'm sure other folks read other blogs, but I spend more than enough time here, thank you very much. I know about the flat tax. Neal Bortzenbooger talks about it all the time. Democrats and the tax code? We talk about it. You know what we talk about? Making it fair for the Middle Class and taking away some of the tax cuts for the wealthy. As for Huckabee? In this dangerous world we need someone at least curious about foreign policy and foreign affairs. From what I've seen of Mike, he gets his foreign affair knowledge from the old magazines at the barber shop.




    Impeach Bush.
     
  14. Fatty FatBastard

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    You do realize that a Flat Tax takes away tax cuts also, right?

    I'll have to look into more of his views on foeign policy, but I doubt Bill Clinton knew much when he was elected, either. And I'll be watching closely to see what Obama knows about them, also.
     
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    Chance of a flat tax taking effect? Just a tad over 0%.
    Chance of voting specifically on one issue proving to be a mistake? >90%.

    IMHO.
     
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    so I gather that you will be voting for McCain as he was the only one willing to really stick his neck out there for the surge? ;)
     
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    Not trying to be needling anyone, but isn't the whole point of Obama's campaign focused on one issue, "change"? I'm not a fan of Hillary, but I do hear more about her plans than Obama's, whose main rallying point seems to be change, but change to what?
     
  18. torque

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    A flat tax represents a tax break for the rich and a tax hike for the poor - your argument is invalid.

    The economy is volatile at the moment, and is certainly a big issue, but how foreign policy has to be considered the biggest issue facing America today. We are forcibly occupying two Middle Eastern countries right now, and we unabashedly support Israel - we are NOT in good standing with the Middle East. Where do terrorists come from again?

    You think that a guy who doesn't know where the hell Pakistan is, and thinks Palestinians should be forcibly moved to another arab country (who would not at ALL be willing themselves) is right for American foreign policy? Yikes.
     
  19. Fatty FatBastard

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    You've obviously not read what the flat tax proposal is about, have you?

    http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer
     
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    Here:
    http://www.barackobama.com/issues/
     

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