I think he tried to sign Garcia and Plummer initialy. Garcia chose TB and Plummer retired IIRC. I thought the Schaub trade was a desperation move. I mean a 2nd round pick can net you a DeMeco Ryans. We gave up TWO 2nd rounders. Oh well.
I remember people who used to always tell me about the Great Depression... never understood why they wanted to talk so much about,,, well,,, something so depressing... But I have learned when you have suffered there is a healing found in talking it out... You know, I still remember the Buffalo playoff comeback... sorry, but David Carr will take a while to forget- he was a bust (by definition) and he was defended so much as if anyone who thought he was a bust was football stupid (you know if he just had the players, the line, a running game, good coaching etc etc- the only reason I didn't like Carr was because he was a sorry QB and I could see that before the Cleveland loss when it all spiralled downward) RIP but never forget
dead horse??? just a few weeks back you were still defending him, right? we're just now finding out about how the "if he were on another team with other weapons" argument plays out.
I don't recall defending DC, as much as say not defending the OL DC played behind. As an aside, did anyone else notice that Schaub's early success in this season went south about the same time the rest of the league figured out that our OL still could not pick a blitz. Of course this also meant that Schaub took more hits and started showing nervous feet in the pocket, a la DC.
Excuses for DC. The idea that he could be successful elsewhere with other weapons. We're seeing now that argument doesn't hold water. Schaub has been better than DC...even on a team with a battered OL. We've improved at the QB position.
Not really. To restate my DC position ... It is hard to tell if DC sucks or not, since the OL he played behind was terrible. At this point in DC's career, he is broken man, thanks to the many years of getting beaten to a pulp. BTW, I am not sold on Schaub at all. He certainly to date has not shown he can take the beating his predecessor took. I am also not sold on his arm accuracy or strength; he may make the right decisions in the pocket, but his arm fails in execution. If this make me DC's biggest defender, then so be it
Well then we're definitely not kicking a dead horse because someone is just now finding out that he does, in fact, suck.
Which game did that happen in? The Texans are currently tied for 8th in the league for fewest sacks given up. Compare that with Carr's last year as a Texan (with basically the same OL) when we were tied for 23rd. Or the year before when we were DEAD LAST and 14 sacks given up ahead of the 2nd to last team. The hit that knocked Schaub out this year was a cheap shot after he threw an interception and had nothing to do with the OL. Any QB would have been knocked out after that hit.
No argument here, but ... Jabar "Hands of Stone" Gaffney somehow figured out how to play in the NFL after leaving the Texans. There is always hope for DC that he can pull a Gaffney too. I for one am not holding my breath.
Wrong, wrong, W R O N G!!! Dom Capers, Bob McNair and Charlie Casserly ruined both David Carr AND the Texans. To continue to blame DC for the acts of those three is really starting to look foolish to me. And as for payback, the b**** is still on the Texans until they can put together a winning season. Before you guys go out of your way to snicker at Carr being 3rd string you'd probably want to have the Texans at least get to .500 first.
He's just about finished as a QB in the league. I would be very surprised to see him anywhere else in the league next season. BTW, now you're just being mean and spiteful...
I agree that, as you like to call them, the C&C Idiot Factory are who ruined the Texans. However, we'll never know if they ruined David Carr. He may very well have been a kinder, gentler Ryan Leaf or another Tim Couch. I find that more believable than the theory that C&C ruined the next Vinny Testaverde, or Trent Green, or Kerry Collins, or whomever Carr may have ended up being like. I'm sure we all have opinions, but to me both scenarios are plausible I'm more inclined to believe Carr wasn't all that special on the NFL level.
