1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

My how Richard Hidalgo has fallen

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Brando2101, Jul 14, 2006.

  1. msn

    msn Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2002
    Messages:
    11,726
    Likes Received:
    2,094
    Exactly wrong. Did you ever see him in the locker room? Because I have acquaintances who did. It was also pretty documented/commented on in the media. (To repeat myself,) dude hit the weights even *harder* after landing the big contract and lost a lot his limberness/flexibility. He wasn't as fast, lost bat speed, and messed up his swing mechanics altogether. They even kept him in Houston after either '01 or '02 for a while and did flexibility exercises with him, very little weight training.

    Well, he is as suspect as anyone else in this era.
     
  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2002
    Messages:
    43,812
    Likes Received:
    3,709

    not only the that, last year wasn't as good as hildago's best
     
  3. The Real Shady

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2000
    Messages:
    17,173
    Likes Received:
    3,972
    It looked like his gut was getting larger along with his biceps. His gut was practically hanging in the strikezone after his contract year.
     
  4. arkoe

    arkoe (ง'̀-'́)ง

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2001
    Messages:
    10,387
    Likes Received:
    1,598
    Yeah, he got shot in the arm instead.
     
  5. msn

    msn Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2002
    Messages:
    11,726
    Likes Received:
    2,094
    My impression was that he was fat as well. But I had an acquaintance who had a press pass in 2000, 2001, and 2002 and was in the locker room several times. He said that Hidalgo was a freak of nature after 2000--he had hit the weights (and maybe the juice) WAY too hard. The guy said that there was no fat--just lots of tight, rock solid muscle. I really didn't have a leg to stand on to argue with the guy--I've never seen (and don't care to see) Richard Hidalgo in nothing but a towel.
     
  6. DoitDickau

    DoitDickau Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2002
    Messages:
    1,706
    Likes Received:
    66
    Here are ensberg's 4 full season in the majors (inc this one)
    obp/slg
    03 377/530
    04 330/411
    05 388/557
    06 390/500

    which one of these is not like the others? looks fairly consistent to me

    I don't get some of the hatred and gripping towards ensberg. It certainly is not rationally based on his production or playing. Sure he has struggled mightly the past month, but i doubt that is the cause of it because it's been occuring since he was brought up. In fact, in hindsight, William's strange hesitation to play ensberg in 03 probably cost the team the playoffs that year. Even taking into account as bad as he has the last month and a half, his season this year is still better than any full year Huff has ever put up. Furthermore, morgan is one of the better defensive 3rd base in the league, below one the rolen type elite of the league.
     
  7. Stack24

    Stack24 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2003
    Messages:
    11,766
    Likes Received:
    1,737
    If they ever have the top 10 on ESPN of fluke season by baseball players Brady Anderson should be Number one...you can put Lima up there as well lol
     
  8. Master Baiter

    Master Baiter Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2001
    Messages:
    9,608
    Likes Received:
    1,376
    Didn't Lima have two?
     
  9. msn

    msn Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2002
    Messages:
    11,726
    Likes Received:
    2,094
    2004? Not horrible, but obviously lesser than the other years.
     
  10. Nice Rollin

    Nice Rollin Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2006
    Messages:
    11,858
    Likes Received:
    321
    benny agbayani> everyone
     
  11. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    101,333
    Likes Received:
    103,936
    Interesting that his only good season post-2000 came after he was shot in the stomach during the offseason...and couldn't work out much while recovering.
     
  12. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 1999
    Messages:
    48,984
    Likes Received:
    1,445
    I hear Richard really liked BW3. Especially the Rice Village location. Typically around 5:00 on a Saturday afternoon.
     
  13. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    101,333
    Likes Received:
    103,936
    It's on.
     
  14. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 1999
    Messages:
    48,984
    Likes Received:
    1,445
    Cool. I'm heading up NE way to see my buddy, but am going to try to get there around 4:30 or so.
     
  15. Shroopy2

    Shroopy2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2003
    Messages:
    16,256
    Likes Received:
    2,039
    Man, Club Spy...(i know its gone) Haha, I miss Houston sometimes

    Richard Hidalgo=Bret Boone
     
  16. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2002
    Messages:
    43,812
    Likes Received:
    3,709

    you're right, he's only had one break out year, just like hidalgo.
    hr rbi 03-05
    25 60
    10 66
    36 10
     
  17. DoitDickau

    DoitDickau Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2002
    Messages:
    1,706
    Likes Received:
    66
    wow you really need to learn how to interperate baseball statistics
     
  18. Nice Rollin

    Nice Rollin Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2006
    Messages:
    11,858
    Likes Received:
    321
    nobody's fallen harder than brad lidge
     
  19. pugsly8422

    pugsly8422 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2002
    Messages:
    3,265
    Likes Received:
    349
    Hidalgo = Beltre

    Played a few ok years, had 1 big year (contract year, no surprise), got the contract, then went back to normal, or even worse.

    Pugs
     
  20. msn

    msn Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2002
    Messages:
    11,726
    Likes Received:
    2,094
    Now, that is a compelling comparison.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now