my hair is on fire!

I don't care about Hunter Biden's baby mama drama. That's the entire point of the OP of this thread that you and the other MAGA weirdo's are obsessed with.

-Hunter Biden didn't pay all his taxes... great... let the IRS prosecute and fine him if he cheated.
(I think those worried about Hunter Biden as a tax cheat should be happy that Joe Biden helped better staff the IRS then right???)

-Hunter Biden fathered a child from a one-night stand? Sucks for the kid, and for the mother... I hope that Hunter Biden will continue to pay a fair amount monthly after the court decides what is reasonable. For now, I'm happy that the child's mother is getting 20K a month, and it's Hunter's right to argue in court for a lower amount as many many divorced dads, and other biological fathers to children do daily.

This isn't like WW3 here guys. This isn't the end of civilization. This isn't sea levels rising and Houston and New Orleans under water.

NOBODY CARES. Get a F-ing life and turn off FoxNews for one night a week.

 

Well Hunter is a certiable deadbeat that only a father could love.

They can try to use him to drag down Joe (doubtful unless Joe idiotically obstructs like Tramp), but real reform against influence peddling by family members would likely make both parties sweat and squirm.

 

useful thread.

 

The funny thing is everyone at foxnews probably laughs at all you hunter weirdos @basso . Hilarious now that they've been sued they're more careful about their conspiracies

 

https://jonathanturley.org/2023/05/...kely-to-get-worse-for-the-secretary-of-state/

Blinken’s Immaculate Conception Defense: Why Things Are Likely to Get Worse for the Secretary of State
by jonathanturley
May 3, 2023

Below is my column in the New York Post on the response of Secretary of State Antony Blinken to allegations that he was the original source for the Russian disinformation claim behind the Hunter Biden laptop. I wrote previously that Blinken is struggling to avoid the look of a “made man” who earned his bones in the Biden Administration. Things are now likely to get worse after a U.S. senator added an alleged false statements charge to Blinken’s controversies.

Here is the column:

Secretary of State Antony Blinken is claiming the political version of the immaculate conception.

In a Fox interview, Blinken suggests that he is free of blame in the creation of the 2020 letter from former intelligence officials claiming that the Hunter Biden laptop story was likely Russian disinformation.

Despite the primary organizer of the letter naming him as the Biden campaign adviser who first raised the claim, Blinken insists that he remains without sin.

All of the letter signatories are taking the same position.

No one is at fault in one of the most calculated false stories ever planted in the midst of an election cycle.

That would be hard enough to believe, but it’s not even the only lie Blinken is accused of telling in relation to Hunter Biden.

Blinken is also facing questions over allegedly false statements made to Congress related to Hunter Biden.

He claims he never emailed Hunter, when messages on the president’s son’s laptop show he did.

Let’s start with the letter.

With an enabling media, Joe Biden was able to use it to dismiss the evidence of possible influence peddling and criminal conduct on the laptop.

During the presidential debate, an irate Biden cited the letter as proving that the laptop story was “garbage” and part of a “Russian plan.” He added that “nobody believes” that the laptop was real.

Media and social media companies then buried the story, including some like Twitter banning its discussion before the election.

In the close election, the false story worked to negate a damaging scandal of corruption involving millions of dollars from foreign sources, including some involving figures associated with foreign intelligence.

After the Republican takeover of the House, former acting CIA Director Michael Morell was called before Congress to give a statement.

When pressed on how this letter came about, Morell reportedly did not hesitate: Blinken.

He said Blinken was “the impetus” of the false claim.

Morell then organized dozens of ex-national security officials to sign the letter claiming that the Hunter laptop story had “all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation.”

On Monday, Blinken told Fox News State Department correspondent Benjamin Hall that “with regard to that letter, I didn’t — it wasn’t my idea, didn’t ask for it, didn’t solicit it. And I think the testimony that the former deputy director of the CIA, Mike Morell, put forward confirms that.”

Morell called him the “impetus” for the letter. So perhaps Blinken is trying to dance on the semantic pinhead of being the “impetus” as opposed to the “solicitor” of the claim. Morell did not appear to have any doubts or hesitation after speaking with Blinken and quickly assembled an array of experts to make the false claim. Morell admitted to Congress that one of his goals was “to help then-Vice President Biden in the debate and to assist him in winning the election.”

So it turns out no one is at fault. Not the “impetus,” not the organizer, not the signatories, not the media. Indeed, maybe it is the public for being chumps in buying this scam.

Blinken is facing a more serious question raised by Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), who declared that Blinken told “boldface” lies when he testified under oath to Congress in 2020 on the controversy. Johnson said that Blinken said he never emailed Hunter Biden.

Yet emails between the president’s son and Blinken were recently disclosed. They suggested that the two were in communication in 2015 while Blinken was working in the Obama administration and Hunter was on the board of Ukrainian energy firm Burisma.

Johnson stated on Fox’s “Sunday Morning Futures” that “we know that he lied boldface to Congress about never emailing Hunter Biden. My guess is he told a bunch of other lies.”

There are also emails that suggest that Hunter communicated through Blinken’s wife, Evan Ryan, who now serves as Biden’s cabinet secretary.

We still need more details on the underlying facts, but, if true, the allegations could constitute both criminal and impeachable offenses. Blinken reportedly made these statements as part of the process leading to his confirmation. If he lied, it could constitute making a “materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation” to Congress under 18 US 1001.

If Blinken lied or committed perjury, it could also constitute an impeachable offense. One complicating issue is that this did not technically occur while in office but in pursuit of that office. Moreover, there may be other statements since becoming secretary of state.

Of course, during the Clinton impeachment, the question of whether perjury constitutes an impeachable offense was raised. When I testified at the impeachment hearing, I maintained that it clearly does meet the standard of a “high crime and misdemeanor.” In my view, it did not matter the subject matter.

Others, like Harvard Professor Laurence Tribe, were equally certain that perjury did not meet that standard in the Clinton case.

The fact is that cabinet and high-ranking officers have often been accused of false statements without facing impeachment or even prosecution.

Ironically, the letter includes one notable example.

Former National Intelligence Director James Clapper during the Obama administration was accused of perjury before the Senate but was not sanctioned by the Democrat-controlled Senate or the Obama Justice Department.

He later signed the Hunter Biden letter.

That history may be reassuring for Blinken.

However, whatever the outcome, Blinken has some explaining to do and one thing is clear: There is nothing immaculate about the Hunter Biden scandal.

Jonathan Turley is an attorney and a professor at George Washington University Law School.
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@basso serious question. Did hunter sleep with your someone in your family? Honestly asking

 

Some people cared. These 51 high profile folks cared enough to help the biden campaign spread disinformation just before the election.

 

nothing to see here, move along. it's not like they traded arms for hostages

 

"Spreading disinformation" is when you form an opinion right. Where in the letter did they ever say that they were 100% sure that's what happened? When trump was claiming the election was stolen even before the election occurred that totally wasn't disinformation right ?


You folks remind me of a druggie needing an injection every day to keep the high going. Foxnews just has to feed you more and more conspiracies to keep you going.

 

pretty sure that's called "plausible deniability."

except it isn't all that plausible

 

The American flagged skull with glowing red eyes

 

It's funny how @Astrodome magically forgets how a republican senate committee found Russia to have interfered in our election in 2016. Your whole "gotcha" is that former Intel officals formed an opinion based on events that occurred 4 years ago.

Do you folks ever realize how stupid the dumb crap you folks get outraged at? It's like they inject stupidty in yalls veins

 

I'm actually friends with one of the 51 intel officials. I believe what he did was pretty much fraudulent--well-intended, perhaps, but still fraudulent.

 

Hahahahahaha fraud ? No what fraud was when Trump's ex cabinet member wrote a executive order mandating the us marshalls to seize voting machines bcz of wide spread fraud.

You folks are brainwashed. Whinning over ex officalls forming an opinion while trump folks literally tried overthrowing government.


https://www.politico.com/news/2022/...e defense,to preservation of election records.

 

I am not outraged. It worked out for Biden so the disinformation was useful. Why dwell on the past? Ideally, this is Biden's last term.

 

Hunter Biden is a scumbag, but I don’t really care about his personal life because he isn’t part of the Administration.

 

if . . . IF . . . it turns out that father Joe willingly and gladly allowed his son to sell access to him while he was Obama's vice-president . . . again, "if," and I emphasize "if" . . . would you care about the Hunter Biden story being investigated in that case? serious question.

 

Potentially yes, the problem is the same we have with a lot of these types of things. What does sell access to him mean? How do we get a direct connection? I would be shocked if we find something that black and white because that isn’t usually how influence works. If there is clear cut evidence of the President saying he will do X in exchange for $ to be paid to him or his son - then that is a crime and Joe Biden would deserve to be impeached and face charges down the line.

I may be more politically aligned with Biden than the current extremists in either party - but that wouldn’t mean he should be above the law.

 

well, the bump in father Joe's income might be a clue . . . traceable emails between various parties leading potentially to father Joe might a close. n.b. I said "might" . . . Who knows? but that's the point of investigating.

appreciate the response

 

They should check and see if someone paid for Hunter's Biden education