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  1. basso

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    do you believe the hunter biden hunter biden investigation is politicized?

    [narrator: it is, just not in the way rj thinks.]
     
  2. rocketsjudoka

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    Yes it is politicized. By definition the House investigation is. That said I've stated before I'm fine with it continuing and support the naming of a special counsel in it. I've also said that the plea deal did seem light.

    I've stated that I support the Constitutional prerogative of Congress and DOJ to investigate the executive branch unlike some who simultaneously claim that the DOJ is only going after Trump for political reasons and those should be stopped why pressing for a Hunter and Joe Biden investigation.
     
  3. Os Trigonum

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    extra credit to Turley for the Lebowski reference

    https://jonathanturley.org/2023/08/...he-goes-by-various-names-the-question-is-why/

    The Search for Robert L. Peters: He Goes By Various Names…The Question is Why
    by jonathanturley
    August 24, 2023

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    Below is my column on search for the true identity of Robert L. Peters, the name Republicans believe was used by then Vice President Joe Biden in emails that contradict his past claims on the influence peddling scandal.

    Here is the column:

    He is a man with many names. “Celtic.” “The Big Guy.” According to congressional investigators, most citizens know him as “President Biden.”

    Alias are tricky things. They are sometimes innocent or essential like the code name that the Secret Service gives you as part of your protection like “Celtic.”

    Then there are nicknames that are preferred to your given name. Take the Big Lebowski. He did not like being called Mr. Lebowski and preferred “Dude” but he was flexible: “I’m The Dude. So, that’s what you call me. You know, that or, uh, His Dudeness, or, uh, Duder, or El Duderino, if you’re not into the whole brevity thing.”

    It appears that President Biden also preferred on occasion not to be called “Mr. Biden.” The question is why and whether Mr. Peters is more Big Lebowski or Big Guy.

    People apparently were told to avoid directly referring to President Biden. In one email, Biden associate James Gilliar explained the rules to Tony Bobulinski, then a business partner of Hunter’s, and not to speak of the former veep’s connection to any transactions: “Don’t mention Joe being involved, it’s only when u [sic] are face to face, I know u [sic] know that but they are paranoid.”

    So it was not “Mr. Biden” who would receive a planned 10 percent cut on a deal with a Chinese energy firm. It was “the Big Guy,” who also was to receive benefits like office space from foreign sources.

    Recently, an FBI document showed that a truster source relayed an allegation of bribery where Ukrainian businessman said that he was told not to send money directly to “the Big Guy” but used a complex series of accounts to transfer the funds.

    The question is whether “Robert L. Peters” used in various emails was in fact Joe Biden.

    House investigators want to find out, but the Administration does not seem eager to resolve the question.

    The earlier email using the alleged alias is from 2016. It holds particular significance for House investigators because it cc’d Hunter Biden about Ukraine. In the now widely accepted influence peddling operation, the object of the influence was Biden.

    We now know that the President lied for years in denying knowledge or conversations about his son’s foreign dealings.

    Even the Washington Post now admits that the President lied when he said that Hunter made no money in China.

    However, these emails may show the quid in the quid pro quo. Biden is accused of sending official information on these countries to his influence peddling son.

    The nothing-to-see-here crowd is dismissing the allegation while resisting any further confirmation of these emails. (Notably, many of them insist that the false claims of Russian collusion against Trump were established by the fact that his campaign chair, Paul Manafort, gave polling data to a Russian client).

    Yet, there are 27 emails linked to Joe Biden’s alleged “Robert L. Peters” alias including sent from John Flynn, a former senior adviser to Joe Biden, with the White House “@ovp.eop.gov” domain name.

    For his part, Peters uses “@pci.gov” domain name on a government network, which includes the Executive Office of the President.

    House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer (R-KY) has pushed the National Archives to share unredacted copies of these emails and has said that the House has not received the evidence. If so, it is not clear why the Archives would redact names from these emails or other information. If that matter comes to a head, the House is likely to win in court. However, efforts to obstruct such efforts could soon be one of the subjects of an impeachment inquiry.

    It is also not clear why Joe Biden will not simply make this information and his financial records available to resolve any lingering questions over his past conduct and ongoing denials.

    It is not likely to happen. Joe Biden has not taken well to reporters using his aliases. When a reporter who asked him about being “the Big Guy,” President Biden was irate and asked “Why’d you ask such a dumb question?

    If the answer was not clear before, it was clear after that response.

    It appears that other Obama Administration officials used such aliases. The question is where Mr. Peters was doing something that Mr. Biden did not want to be associated with. He was not the “brand” being sold by Hunter, but he may have been a conduit to deliver on that brand.

    The House is unlikely to tolerate further delays in answering these questions. One thing is clear. For a fictitious figure, Mr. Peters has a growing number of people eager to make his acquaintance.



     
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  4. NewRoxFan

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    "October." My bet... October 23. Since that is the date Fani Willis announced as the start of the trump trials. Since this is just a distraction from the trials...

     
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  5. NewRoxFan

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    "i told them not too, but its Garlands fault"... what a freaking putz.

     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    Yes, a silly and funny xeet.
     
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  7. NewRoxFan

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    What if, best yet, I don't watch the Fox News clip of McCarthy at all? :D:eek:
     
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    The prospect of having three out of the last five presidents impeached doesn't sound stable nor great. Probably means we're veering into a winner-takes-all systen.

    The rules and laws are already lax as it is for white collar crime. How much greedier can these politicians get.
     
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  10. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Why is the US congress investigating Hunter Biden? If Dems had investigated Kushner there would be a revolt.

    Hunter Biden isn't president. If there is wrong doing by Joe Biden, investigate that, not go on these hunting expeditions in hopes of finding juicy nuggets to push the news cycle.
     
  11. Os Trigonum

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    because this:

     
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  12. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Except there is no connection between Joe Biden to Hunter Biden's business dealings. Kinda an important piece to a rico case.
     
  13. Os Trigonum

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    lol. and that's a sincere lol, not a fake or sarcastic lol. keep trying to convince yourself of this.
     
  14. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Lol, if they had any evidence on Joe Biden, they'd go after him, not his son.
     
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  15. Os Trigonum

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    hence the ongoing investigation
     
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    You are laughing at someone asking for evidence and then say the GOP just needs to investigate to find said evidence.

    There’s almost no way that you aren’t a liberal person posing as a Trumper in order to make Trumpers look like morons.
     
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    Wait what?!? @StupidMoniker you're telling me the "prosecutor" who claimed there was enough evidence to indict biden is a liar and a fraud? Who would've known that @StupidMoniker was full of **** other than me?

    There's no evidence against Joe biden and all the low life trolls @Os Trigonum @AroundTheWorld present everything wrong with America.

    I genuinely pray for you people that God gives you people some guidance. It's never too light to wake up esp you @Os Trigonum . Life is short don't waste it
     
  18. astros123

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    You have wasted such a significant portion of your life literally spinning lies and false narratives. You'll look back with regrets seriously. Pissing away your life on conspiracies and chasing ghosts. What a sad way to ride off in the sunset
     
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  19. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Sure investigate away. It's good politics to throw red meat for the base.

    But conservatives have seemed to fail to understand the difference between a political investigation by Congress and a criminal investigation by the DOJ.
     
  20. Os Trigonum

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    another sincere lol.

    The "criminal investigation" by the DOJ itself has been corrupted from the very beginning, from all outward appearances. Appointing Weiss quote-unquote "special counsel" is just a continuation of efforts to slow walk the whole thing until either Joe expires or all of the statute of limitations for Hunter's crimes expire.
     
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