i NEVER call anyone stupid or personal words until they post conspiracies that have been debunked before and their aware of it. I dont run around calling new posters idiots and personal words.. If you post something on these forums that has already been debunked then you are an enemy of the people and your job is to destroy society. I hold no qualms about my position. January 6 did not happen in a vacuum.
There’s a conversation? Can you please direct me to it? Maybe that’s the disconnect. Good folks like yourself thinking there’s an actual conversation happening anywhere in this forum.
If you feel justified, nothing I can say to dissuade you. Maybe you're even right. I can see you are passionate about politics. But my feedback is that you degrade the experience of third parties who would rather not have to steer around a flame war. That's all. I'm not going to bother you about it any longer, but I thought you should hear how you affect others.
A flame war would really require two sides firing. This is more like a lone gunman, with his hair on fire.
You really have no room to talk. You're not innocent at all in this "conversation" of decorum. I do not disagree with astro123's posts, but rather the language used.
I said I couldn't find the exact quote I had seen years ago but this quote in 2019 indicates that it had been afoot for 2.5 years at least. The one I read years ago was offered before his inauguration. Do a search for pelosi/impeachment/2015/2016 and you get pages and pages of stuff from 2019 forward. The "precision" of online searches is so over-rated.
I'm just saying there is more to the story than Devin Archer. Two research operations and confusion between them The opposition research conducted by Fusion GPS on Donald Trump was in two distinct operations, each with a different client. First were the Republicans, funded by The Washington Free Beacon. Then came the Democrats, funded by the DNC and the Clinton campaign. The Republican operation, from October 2015 to May 2016, focused on Trump's domestic business and entertainment activities; was performed by Fusion GPS; and used Wayne Barrett's files and public sources. Immediately after the publication of the dossier, the media sometimes falsely assumed that the dossier started as a product of this research, so the Free Beacon released this statement: "none of the work product that the Free Beacon received appears in the Steele dossier".[38][39] The Democratic operation, from April 2016 to December 2016, was focused on Trump's Russian connections; was subcontracted to Steele/Orbis; and used Steele's own source network and public sources. Only this second operation produced the dossier.[40][41] From April to early May 2016, The Washington Free Beacon and the DNC/Clinton Campaign were independently both clients of Fusion GPS. This overlap contributed to the media's confusion.:" On a side note, both the DNC and the Hillary campaign were fined for "mis-classifying" the fees paid for the dossier as "legal fees" rather than "oppositional research." Not what I was even talking about. Never brought it up. Don't know how it relates to potential Biden corruption.. You have done the convicting in your mind, but thank you for quoting a line from one of my favorite movies.
And they haven't gotten you any closer to anything relevant..... the fact that so much the evidence and stories is through the media and not through a congressional investigation is pretty damning. 5 years...... And I am talking about the Freedom Caucus coordinating elections lies, so why wouldn't they do it again here? And I am talking about the Freedom Caucus coordinating elections lies, so why wouldn't they do it again here? Freedom Caucus is spearheading the Hunter/Joe investigation.... why wouldn't they lie again? The evidence is pretty clear to me. 5 years and you still can't make a case outside of twitter or FOX media?
What the hell is this thread about? In any case, I simply wish to post an article to celebrate the joyous occasion. (The content may have already been posted since I haven’t been following this thread.) It aligns with previous instances of Republican premature ejaculation about Biden’s illegality, leading to much disappointment.. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/04/us/politics/biden-devon-archer-testimony.html Republicans who for months have accused President Joe Biden without proof of crime and corruption thought that a former business partner of his son’s could be the key to finally substantiating their most serious allegations. “Hunter’s ex-business partner, Devon Archer, could blow the lid off Joe Biden’s phony claims of innocence,” blared an email Friday from former President Donald Trump’s campaign. Rep. James Comer, R-Ky., told Fox News that Archer could become a “hero” of the House GOP’s investigation into what they call the “Biden crime family,” delivering the damning evidence they need to impeach Biden. But the testimony this week of Archer, a former Yale lacrosse player who has been convicted of federal tax charges, fell well short of that, shooting down a bribery allegation Republicans have long promoted and generally rejecting the idea that the elder Biden had any material involvement in his son’s business dealings. It was the latest instance of House Republicans promising far more than they could produce in terms of proof of their allegations against the president. “Are you aware of any wrongdoing by Vice President Biden?” Archer’s lawyer asked him at one point during the closed-door testimony before the House oversight committee, a transcript of which was released Thursday. “No, I’m not aware of any,” Archer replied. Archer offered a wholly unflattering portrait of the actions of Biden’s son Hunter, providing an account that raised ethical questions about the way he conducted business. It also suggested questionable judgment on the part of the president, who, according to Archer’s testimony, repeatedly allowed himself to be in the presence — either physically or by phone — of business associates of his son’s who were apparently seeking connections and influence inside the U.S. government. But the elder Biden never actually got involved, Archer told the panel. In particular, Archer debunked an anonymous, unverified allegation that Republicans have trumpeted for months that Joe Biden, while vice president, and his son each accepted a $5 million bribe from an official with Ukrainian energy company Burisma. Archer, who sat on the Burisma board along with Hunter Biden and handled his payments from the company, told lawmakers that he had never heard of any such transaction, and said the claims were most likely false boasting. That testimony was consistent with evidence put forth recently from Lev Parnas, an associate of Rudy Giuliani’s, who served as the personal lawyer to Trump and who was assigned to dig up dirt on the Bidens in Ukraine. House Democrats released an interview Parnas conducted with Mykola Zlochevsky during his investigation in which the Burisma co-founder wrote in all caps: “NO ONE FROM BURISMA EVER HAD ANY CONTACTS WITH VP BIDEN OR PEOPLE WORKING FOR HIM DURING HUNTER BIDEN’S ENGAGEMENT.” Archer also undercut another Republican argument that the elder Biden had pressured Ukrainian officials in 2016 to fire Viktor Shokin, former prosecutor general of Ukraine, because he was investigating the company. On the contrary, Archer said, he heard from associates in Washington that Burisma had Shokin “under control” and that his replacement could be more damaging to the company. Although Archer’s testimony did not live up to Republican expectations, it also did not produce a clean political win for Democrats. Archer testified that he could recall about 20 times when he and Hunter Biden were meeting with business associates, and Hunter Biden put his father on speakerphone. The conversations, Archer said, were only about niceties — “How’s the weather? How’s the fishing?” — but he said the signal from Hunter Biden was clear. “There was not business content in these conversations,” Archer told conservative pundit Tucker Carlson in an interview after his testimony. “The idea of signals and influence — the prize is enough in speaking or hearing or knowing you have that proximity to power.” At one point, Archer told Carlson, “In the rearview, it’s an abuse of soft power.” Archer also said he believed it was false for defenders of the president to say that he had no knowledge of his son’s business activities. “He was aware of Hunter’s business,” said Archer, who played golf with both Bidens. “He met with Hunter’s business partners.” Archer described the high-flying lifestyle he and Hunter Biden engaged in thanks to the wealth they had flowing in from overseas. He confirmed that he had received a wire from Kenes Rakishev, a Kazakh businessman, of $142,300 to pay for a pricey car for Hunter Biden. “I believe it was a Fisker first and then a Porsche,” Archer testified. Archer also said he believed Burisma as a company stayed in business through tough times through its associations with influential figures in Washington, and the “brand” that Hunter Biden brought to the board. Asked what he meant, Archer said, “Because people would be intimidated to mess with them.” He also said Hunter Biden attempted to get credit at Burisma when his father traveled to Ukraine as vice president. “He was getting paid a lot of money, and I think, you know, he wanted to show value,” Archer said, adding: “It’s clear that he’s not bringing his dad, but he’s saying, you know, ‘I’m going to get credit for it.’” Archer concluded that Hunter Biden was attempting to wield the appearance of influence beyond what he was actually delivering. Asked by Rep. Dan Goldman, D-N.Y., whether it was “fair to say that Hunter Biden was selling the illusion of access to his father,” Archer responded, “Yes.”
Biden’s claim he had no role in Hunter’s foreign business dealings ‘categorically false’: Devon Archer https://nypost.com/2023/08/04/devon...-never-talked-hunter-biz-categorically-false/ excerpt: WASHINGTON — President Biden’s claim that he had no role in his son’s foreign business dealings is “categorically false,” Hunter Biden’s former business partner Devon Archer said in an interview published Friday. “He was aware of Hunter’s business, he met with Hunter’s business partners, I mean you found a letter that illustrates that he knew me,” Archer told former Fox News host Tucker Carlson in an interview posted on X, formerly known as Twitter. “That’s not factually right — and in the same breath … I don’t think Joe Biden has looked at a balance sheet or, you know, a cap[italization] table or what have you or any financial document, probably ever.” Archer told Carlson that after he and Hunter Biden joined the board of Ukrainian natural gas company Burisma Holdings in the spring of 2014, “There was constant pressure to send signals to leverage all of his — his dad included, but the Biden brand, all of the DC insider relationships to help Burisma survive.” “That was the idea [of Burisma hiring Hunter]. It was that ability to help on the geopolitical stage keep them out of trouble, keep them out of investigations, unfreeze assets, unsuccessfully unfreeze visas,” he added. Archer also called the Biden family’s international consulting business “a diverse portfolio of opportunity” and said first brother James Biden’s role in Hunter’s dealings “really picked up” after Archer stepped away from their partnership around 2016 due to his own legal problems. more at the link
Wasn't this pretty evident awhile back? This is @Os Trigonum therapy thread to spin his braindead conspiracies all day because he's bored in real life? Thought this was obvious after the 10000th braindead conspiracies that fell through? It's what happens when you become old and bored in life. Some choose to travel and chase young hot tail and others choose to be brainwashed and spin braindead conspiracies all day. Choose your life
Joe Biden could be seen with a smoking gun in his hands in front of a dead body, and @astros123 would be rage-posting about morons posting a braindead conspiracy theory.
The difference between you and I is that under joe biden my business has grown by over a million dollars and ive been able to grow market share that I would never have been able to simply because of LIna khan anti trust. Im actually directly benefiting from the administration and I literally have never made as much money as im making right now. More patients have low deductibles today than they've ever had in modern history which is great for small business like my. You're literally not even american and you cant even vote yet you obsess over american politics all day when it makes no difference to you. Dont even compare your crappy life to my please LOL. I cant imagine obsessing over some other country's politics that im not even a citizen of LOL. Dont come at me when you're not even a citizen and youre obsessing all day about right wing conspiracies. Losers
It could be better, but it's good enough, people post what they want and they can read what they want.
I said several pages ago that if @Os Trigonum or any other MAGAts can prove that joe biden directly benefiting from hunter scheme or theres evidence that joe biden is corrupt ill ban myself and never post here again and give @Os Trigonum 1k. You can talk about "biden having a smoking gun" but im still waiting. I have never ignored @Os Trigonum conspiracies but rather ive dismantled his and every @StupidMoniker talking point that they've ever presented. It always falls flat on their face Im literally waiting for the day to come when they can present a valid argument that biden is corrupt. When that day comes you have my word that ill never post here again and ill send everyone 1k.
