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My Conversation with Mitch Lawrence

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Almu, Aug 3, 2000.

  1. Almu

    Almu Member

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    Swopa,

    Its called Iridium Restaurant and Jazz Club. Its a great place.

    Bob, I don't know if that was LHutz's ex. But she was a fine vixen and very intelligent from what I can tell. Don't know if that is LHutz's type. [​IMG]

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  2. LiLStevie3

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    The Freak, this past year Shaq averaged about 46 minutes a game in the playoffs and played the whole game many times. Phil left Shaq in during crunch time. That is how the BLazers and Pacers were able to Hack a Shaq.

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  3. RocketsPimp

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    The Spurs would dismantle the Lakers. Not even close. Shaq can only guard one of Duncan and Robinson, leaving the other to destroy the Lakers pathetic forward line. The addition of Derek Anderson makes the Spurs close to unbeatable, in my opinion. He gives them the athleticism/slashing aspect that they lacked during their championship run. Anderson and Elliot more than neutralize Kobe Bryant. And again, Avery Johnson is back to lead the fast break and set up the offense.

    People say that Duncan should have left San Antonio for Orlando, but this is ridiculous. He has another superstar big man to get his back in San Antonio, the only duo in the NBA that can effectively handle Shaq. Now they have added another young star in Derek Anderson. Duncan can make his push with this current cast of characters, and once Robinson and Avery Johnson move on, the Spurs will have cap space to find another star to help Duncan and Anderson. They are looking very good right now.

    Health will be a big question mark for the Spurs (Derek Anderson has always been injury prone, and AJ and Robinson are getting older), but if they can stay healthy, I see them running away with the West by a fairly large margin.

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  5. TheFreak

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    Shaq had to be taken out of the Finals in the 4th quarter, in I believe Game 1, because he was missing all his free throws.
     
  6. brahma rocket

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    shaq is better the duncan, that is why he is the mvp

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    dan roan: why!!!!!

    johnny red kerr:because he would forever be compared to michael jordan.
     
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    Are you sure you werent drunk and was actually looking him on TV and talking to the TV? [​IMG]

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  8. DaDakota

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    CABBAGE,

    Right on, I have been saying the same thing. Duncan has a better chance of winning a ring playing these next 3 years with Robinson.

    But, Duncan ain't stupid, that is why he signed for only 3 years. I wonder if it is a coincidence that Robinson only plans to play 3 more years....NOT !

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    What I don't get is how Rudy could be too loyal to Hakeem .. Hakeem is the best loved sports figure in Houston, and Rudy rode Dream's back to those 2 championships which make Rudy so highly regarded. Dream does whatever he wants because we are a guard oriented team now. Now what's gonna happen w/ the 4.5 million trade exeception???

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  10. haven

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    playahata: One man should never be more important than a team. At the point when Hakeem actually hinders the Rockets, then Rudy should do something. I wonder what exactly Lawrence was talking about, though... perhaps Rudy's insistence on the dump-it-down offense?

    thefreak: Shaq's inability to hit free throws suck, but he's as dominant as Hakeem was in his prime. The man can *take over* a game much easier than Duncan can. I do think that if the Spurs sign Derek Anderson the West will be in for an interesting season... but you're also assuming that the Lakers don't get a PF, which is a possibility, especially since many teams will be dumping salary to avoid the luxury tax.

    You also ignore Kobe... he'd be covering Anderson, and he's perhaps the top defensive SG in the league... besides scoring 23 per game [​IMG].

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  11. Swopa

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    That's a "small" jazz club? Looked pretty big when I walked by it on my last trip. But that makes me even more grateful for the name -- if I'd gone searching on my own I would have kept looking, sure you meant somewhere else. So thanks again! [​IMG]

    By the way, if Les Paul still plays there on Monday nights, you should check it out sometime. (I caught him a couple of times when he used to play down on 2nd Ave. somewhere.)


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  12. thacabbage

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    Shaq didn't seem so dominant against the Blazers in the Conference Finals this year. He is even less dominant when Duncan and Robinson are double teaming him.

    Don't you remember Duncan averaging over 30ppg when the Lakers and Spurs matched up 2 years ago, en route to a sweep? And again, remember, it's not about Shaq vs. Duncan, but Shaq vs. Duncan and Robinson. If it were Shaq vs. Duncan alone, I would agree that Shaq would have the advantage, but this is about Duncan and Robinson as a duo.

    They already have signed him, and I think many people are underestimating his talents which beautifully compliment the inside game of Robinson/Duncan.

    That will change nothing except maybe 2 or 3 points off of Duncan's average. Shaq will be on Robinson, and the power forward will be on Duncan. Duncan was the best player in the league 2 years ago, and not even if the Lakers got Garnett or Wallace would they be able to keep him from 20+.

    The same "top defensive SG" in the league who was constantly abused and attacked by the likes of Stacey Augmon, and Bonzi Wells? I agree with you that Kobe does have the advantage on Anderson, but like the Shaq/Duncan-Robinson matchup, Kobe cannot guard both Elliot and Anderson. Laker forwards are garbage.


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  13. SmeggySmeg

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    Almu,

    Great scoop, btw what was the music like, i didn't pick Mitch as a Jazz fan.

    On the whole Lakers v Spurs thing, how does the argument change if the PJ for Rice trade goes through, that leaves Shaq, PJ, Fox, Kobe and Harper versus Duncan, Robinson, Elie, Anderson and Avery, pretty tight match up.

    What about the Balzers, i think they match up better with the Spurs than against the Lakers, its going to be a fairly interesting 3 way battle.

    Hate to say but I'm with Mitch the Rocks will likely have another lotto year.

    And regarding the Clips, someone needs to step in and save them, for once they have some great playing potential and just need a decent front office to hold things together.

    Smeg

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    thecabbage: Impressive arguments. However, I don't think that Elliot is going to be available next year, and if he is, I doubt he'll be worth too much. Andersen is also *fragile*. Our main difference seems concern Robinson's worth. I really don't think he's that effective anymore, while you do. We'll see who's right.

    As for me, I think the difference between Kobe and Shaq and Andersen and Duncan is enough to make up for that difference. Generally, in the playoffs over the past few years, it seems that the team with the best superstars wins.... that's the Lakers.

    I also think the Lakers will get *someone* for Rice... it makes sense for everyone involved. We'll see how that develops.



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    Derek Anderson is the type of off guard the Spurs have needed for a long long time. An athletic, explosive off guard that can break down defenses and finishes at the rim. The Spurs are going to be a very difficult team to beat with Anderson in the fold.

    My opinion is that the Lakers are not the unstoppable machine that they are made out to be. Portland had them beat but just did not have to go-to type option to finish off Game 7. Tim Duncan would have been able to slam the door shut on the Lakers. The key to guarding the Lakers is having fresh bodies to throw against Shaq and utilizing a trapping scheme to frustrate him. When the Spurs swept LA, the key was alternating Robinson and Duncan on Shaq so that neither would get worn out. Also, at the time, they had a third big man in Perdue to throw in there and help out, they have Samaki Walker instead who should fit the bill as the third big man. A big key though I think is that with Antonio Daniels, the Spurs will have a big athletic PG and wont get hurt as much in terms of size problems. I am a big Daniels backer and think he will really blossom this season. He is the type of PG that came from a small school and just needed a couple of yrs to develop; his time to shine is now. A backcourt of Daniels-Anderson is going to be very difficult to contain and add the Robinson-Duncan frontcourt and you have a dynamite combination. If the Spurs can stay healthy, I think Derek Anderson is the piece that can put them over the top.

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    Everyone has hops in the NBA. Why is that so important? Steve gets to the hoop like Isaiah, has handle like Isaiah and is small like Isaiah. Hops don't make a player

    Easy now...Did I say it did? No.


    I think Francis has more potential than Isiah but that doesn't always translate into him being a better player.

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  18. TheFreak

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    "Our main difference seems concern Robinson's worth. I really don't think he's that effective anymore, while you do. We'll see who's right."

    haven -- Here are Robinson's numbers in the playoffs last year:

    23.5 pts, 13.8 rebs, 3 blks

    That was without Duncan there to take the pressure off, and a rusty Sean Elliott. Basically he was the only focus of the Suns' defense, and those are the numbers he put up. I'd say that was very effective.
     
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    The focal point of the Suns defense? Are you implying that the Suns play defense???

    Those guys are the proverbial donut team - no center. Of COURSE Admiral scored on Luc Longley and ... is Oliver Miller still on that club? Anyway that sort of defense would make Serge Zwikker look like an offensive force.

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    Fine. Then let's only count Shaq's numbers vs. the Blazers, since he also went up against Phoenix, Sacramento, and Indiana. The former 3 don't play defense. I'd be fine with that.
     

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