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My Beef With Brooks

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Hak34, Feb 20, 2010.

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  1. T_Man

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    LOL!!!!!

    Always something or someone to whine about.. If not Yao, then T-Mac or Ariza or Scola... Man always something especially after a loss...

    First off, look at the teams that made the so called big trades Dallas, NY, Cavs, etc... They all lost that first game and that's to be expected. New players trying to adjust to a new team, new teammates and new offense...

    Second, Brooks is playing one of the hardest position on the floor and it usually takes about 3 years for most point guards to adjust to the NBA level...

    DD, you are making some valid points.. Especially about the sign and trades... Morey is not looking at the now.. he's looking at building a strong foundation for the future...

    But as I stated above.. some of you are going to whine no matter what...
     
  2. DaDakota

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    Only idiots thought Landry was untradeable.....everyone is tradeable if it makes the team better.

    We could see anyone traded, but Lowry is a restricted Free agent....and could get more $$$$ to include in a deal.

    Oh never mind.....it is not worth my time to explain it.

    DD
     
  3. choujie

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    Sure there is more that one way to win. That's exactly the reason I prefer Lowry next year, but not this year. You make change base on what you've got, what you need most as a 5 man unit.

    This year what we need in starting lineup? Scoring. That makes the team more balanced. And AB is better at this than Lowry.

    But next year? Maybe decision making and defense. That is Lowry's strength.
     
  4. T_Man

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    Lowry is a second string, a great asset to come off the bench to bring in that needed burst of energy that you need...

    Back in the 80's when the Pistons were winning there was an arguement about Vinnie (The Microwave) Johnson starting... When Joe Dumars got hurt and Vinnie had to start his numbers went down big time. when Joe came back and Vinnie went back to the bench, his numbers came back up.

    Some guys are better at coming off the bench and some are not... You can not have the same mentatilty when you start, then when coming off the bench...

    After about 2 months you guys would be crucifying Lowry...
     
  5. DaDakota

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    Tony Parker people....that is what Brooks is becomming, Tony Parker.

    How many rings does he have again?

    Parker and Ginobli = Brooks and Martin.....

    Once you guys brains start to understand what is going on here in Houston, you will get it.

    DD
     
  6. Entropy

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    Don't condescend. I will readily admit I don't know everything, and I will also admit I am one of those idiots who never thought for a second that Landry would be traded. But please don't act like some tired omniscient god who is weary of mere mortals who will never be able to understand.
     
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    Lowry is a gimmick point guard.

    He can come in with unparralled energy off the bench and try to push the ball and catch people out of position for easy baskets. In playoff games the game slows down TREMENDOUSLY and that option will be cut off, leaving Lowry with few tools to help the team.

    With this team, specifically with Yao, you have to have a PG with a Brooks type skill set in order to be successful. Brooks isnt perfect, but he is still very good. Ill take 26 on 55% and 7ass/4to any day of the week.
     
  8. Hak34

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    DD likes to throw around the stats. Well here is the most compelling one as a Starting PG in this league. He is almost under 5 assists per game as a starging PG, and damn near averages 3 TO's a game. Thats horrific. He does knock down the three very well, but his Shooting percentage is getting real close to the Mendoza line at his .420 percent.

    DD likes to throw around 19 and 5 "almost an all star". How do you know he was almost an all star? BTW Steve Francis in his early years with the Rox pissed on 19 and 5. What did you think of Steve's PG skills. Did you ever moan how SF played the position.

    How about the fact that Brooks is a far below average defender of his position, is terrible at defending the PnR and gets so few steals for a "lighting quick freakishly fast" player.

    The dude scores, and gets a handfull of assists. Has a horrible A:TO ratio, gets no steals, hardly rebounds the ball, plays no defense at all, and his Shooting percentage isn't exactly stellar.

    Id live with ALL of his short comings if he just made the right decisions, or tried to make his mates better.

    Live with it. He just isn't a PG.
     
  9. DaDakota

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    LOL - we are all in the same boat here.......none of us know what is going to happen.

    But to think anyone is untradeable is naive......I mean seriously HAKEEM was traded....anyone can be traded.....

    I guess me being a Rockets fan since 1972 gives me a different perspective.

    DD
     
  10. choujie

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    That's a poor example. Vinnie Johnson is known for scoring in bunches quickly, that thing comes and goes, like AB's shooting. Lowry is totally different, his game doesn't rely on his shot, but rather all-around. That thing doesn't go.
     
  11. DaDakota

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    Live with it, he is our STARTING PG.

    Also, go educate yourself on Rick Adelman and his offense and see how everyone is a facilitator and the PG does not get a lot of assists.

    Also educate yourself on how great it is to have an offensive threat at the PG position.

    And, while you are busy educating yourself, realize that AB has pretty much outplayed most every PG he goes up against.

    Billups, CP3, all of them, the old crap about him being a defensive liability has just not bourne out.

    But, the uneducated amongst us don't know that yet.

    DD
     
  12. T_Man

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    Entropy,

    I don't think DD meant to come off like that, but at times it's like talking to Jr. high people on this board.

    I mean just look at all the new threads that have popped up...

    Start Lowry
    Trad Brooks
    My issues with Brooks
    Adleman Sucks
    So forth and so on......
     
  13. choujie

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    Man, AB's game is much more similar to Terry's than Parkers. A poor man's Jason Terry, that is.
     
  14. Entropy

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    A fair point. I've already gotten over it.
     
  15. ibm

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    ab becoming a tony parker is a wet dream at this point.

    true, you don't have to have a conventional pg to win a ring. but to say "you don't need" a pure pg is another story.
     
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    Would you like to make a tipjar wager that he is not the starting pg by the time the playoffs start in the 2010-2011 season (assuming Yao is healthy and Rockets are in the playoffs)?
     
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    Funny. Yeah, he has the same experience and basketball understanding as Brooks, go tell uncle Phil...

    Is not about scoring PGs or passing PGs, you can be a scorer and have decent PG habilities too, like Parker, who's already at the limit. But Brooks is just hellish, not only for his TOs or bad shots. Just it seems you are not able to see that, like often in other subjects.

    I'm contemplating that Brooks is surely the worst pro PG I've ever seen on my team, scoring apart. Very good scorer by the way.
     
  18. choujie

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    that BS again?

    AB has been dominated by other team's PG in 3 of the last 4 games, that included Rafer freaking Alston.
     
  19. DaDakota

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    Tony Parker people - that is what Brooks is on his way to being.

    Tony Parker.

    DD
     
  20. ibm

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    repeating a false statement x times does not make it true, my friend.
     

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