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My Beef With Brooks

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Hak34, Feb 20, 2010.

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  1. wekko368

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    Yes. And it was the smart thing to do. And to be fair, the Pistons don't really support your argument. They traded Billups for Iverson which is not building for the future. And then they decided to feature Stuckey which is preparing for the future, but as a result, they're now stuck in mediocrity.

    Even if those teams did sell the farm, it paid off. I don't think those teams have any regrets.


    Like I've continually said, you make the trades if they will make you a legitimate contender. If Yao is unable to perform comparably to his former level, then even if we traded for proven veterans, we wouldn't be legitimate contenders. Therefore, we wouldn't make those trades to begin with.

    Understand?
     
  2. realmustang

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    Meaning this was not a develpmental year.
     
  3. T_Man

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    I give up!!!!!!!!

    Like I said before.. I'm glad Morey is the GM and not you...
     
  4. Hak34

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    You know its the same parrots screeching the same things. Its always the same two words they uese.

    Development
    Chemistry

    Heres the thing, Its been almost 2 DECADES since a Rockets championship, and its been 10 years since they meant anything in the playoffs.

    How many years in a row can you say "development year" or "one more year of chemistry"?

    The same parrots want to in one thread scream about how Francis was a bonehead, with low BB IQ only out to score, but Brooks is "the second highest scoring PG in the league" (Good that some of the best are injured so that Brooks can make that claim)

    The same parrots wont argue the facts. Rockets score more and give up less points with Brooks on the bench. Brooks gets torched on the defensive side.

    Brooks has a role with this team and it is huge, but anyone who watched him and Yao together at the end of last year and the playoffs saw plain as day that they do not mesh as complimentary players. Brooks needs to be relegated to outside shooting and getting into the lane to (get this) set up his teammates. He needs to be option number 3 at very best if not 4. Problem is that I don't forsee Brooks allowing this to happen. Im all for the guy figuring it out, and I hope that he does. The Rockets have a real dilema on their hands when Yao comes back healthy. We all saw that Yao just does not work in RA's high post offense, so what are they going to do? Put Yao on the blocks and hope Brooks figures it out? I don't know why posters keep saying how it was so difficult to get Yao the ball over the years, my man increased his scoring average steadily from 13 ppg to 25. Thats not conducive to "having problems"

    Quit derailing the topic. Yes Brooks scores, we get it. Yes he can hit the three, we get it. He TYPICALLY doesn't look to set up his teammates, and he typcially only outscores the opposing PG by a few points. What I want to see is improvement in his decision making process, his ability to see the play unfold and know its going to happen before it happens....IE as I originally stated:

    Up 108 to 105, high screen and roll with Scola. Scola sets the screen and dives into the lane wide open. Instead of hitting Scola with the pass where Scola either scores and puts us up by 5 (assuming he makes the short shot) or he gets collapsed on and hopefully makes the right play and dishes it back out for an open three. Instead it was a launch of a terrible three.
     
  5. T_Man

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    I can only say this.... You will not hear a GM or Coach come out and say that it's a Development year even if it is.. for the fact that they don't want to hurt ticket sales..
     
  6. wekko368

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    That's a foolish argument. Jordan's only opportunities to win w/o Pippen were during his first few years in the league and his last few with the Wizards.

    On the other hand, Pippen had a legitimate shot in 1994.
     
  7. wekko368

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    How about we make a tipjar wager?

    $100 says that Brooks is not the starting pg for the Rockets by the time playoffs 2011 start (assuming we make the playoffs).
     
  8. T_Man

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    Like I said... Jordan never won a Chapionship without Pippen and vice versa... Make any excuse or arguement you like.. fact is fact...
     
  9. wekko368

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    In that case, Horry and Cassell must have been more important to the Rockets' championships than Olajuwon. Olajuwon never won without them yet they were able to win without Olajuwon.
     
  10. T_Man

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    First off... I only bet on things I have control of.....

    Learned that lesson from UH vs. NC State....

    Second, there is no guarantee the Rockets will make it to the playoffs..
     
  11. T_Man

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    You know what since you want to go there... No arguement from me
     
  12. ibm

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    is anyone interested in answering this question, incl. the one who made the statement first?

    if not, i'd like to give it a try. my answer is, very little to none.

    and i don't care why that is.

    i repeat for the n-th time - ab is a good scorer; and that's pretty much it. his advantages are as great as his deficiencies.

    i hope and believe that adelman and morey will find the best way to max out ab's benefits to the team next year.
     
  13. BackNthDay

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    Give the new team some time... Brooks, Scola, Ariza, all of them are making bad decisions. Before the trade of Kelvin we can only count on AB and Scola to score, everyone else was iffy at best. Time to get the rotations straight like the following

    AB/Lowry

    Martin/Chase (when he learns to play better D, we may be able to get something for Martin who does draw fouls at a high rate)

    Ariza/Battier (Bat is smarter, however, that is trumped by Ariza length, steals, and athleticism... he did a much better job on Granger)

    Scola/Jeffries (dude was nervous his 1st game, Jamison went 0fer)

    Hayes/Anderson (If Anderson doesn't get tougher try Armstrong or Hill)

    The players need to know their time to improve. Our 2nd unit has a good mix of offense and D to take/maintain/stretch leads. Our 1st team has scoring so we aren't so far behind after the 1st Qtr
     
  14. realmustang

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    You are correct, however you can tell what they are trying to do by the players they are playing. If this was a developmental year Battier would not be starting, Landry, when he was here would have been a starter, Cbud would have been playin more minutes, Taylor and even Dorsey would not have been sent down to NBDevelopmentalL to "develop."
     
  15. wekko368

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    If the Rockets don't make the playoffs, then the bet is off. I already stated this.

    Well, it's a lock, right? After all, you think that Morey is focusing on rebuilding. You're sure of it. So it should be easy money. So there shouldn't be an issue.

    You're a typical member of this board...highly opinionated and stubborn. You'll scream to high heaven that you're right, but you're unwilling to back it up with a little wager.

    If you truly believe something, have the stones to gamble on it. You may or may not win, but it's a testament to your character that you're willing to gamble on what you believe in.
     
  16. T_Man

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    I get what you are saying... Think of Battier as the Mature Bull Elephant with a lot of youngsters and his job is to keep them inline and teach them along the way.

    Scola and Landry is an interesting one... They both play the same position and you have to have someone come off the bench with energy..

    But I do understand your position.
     
  17. T_Man

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    Dude... Get it thru your think skull... I don't bet... period and I'm too old for your immature mind games....

    Yes I am your typical board member and you are????? Because I sure don't see you saying I understand your view point...

    So let's agree to disagree and move on..
     
  18. wekko368

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    Thought you bet on the UH/NC State game?

    What mind games? If you believe strongly in something, you should be willing to bet on it. That's a mind game?

    Grow up.

    Because you're wrong. That's what it comes down to. I understand your point of view, and it's wrong.

    Happy?

    Like I said in another thread. Stupid concept.
     
  19. DaFranchise03

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    People are saying to give Brooks time but how much time you wont.

    Obviously the trade deadline has passed so nothing will happen this year. By the end of this year if Brooks continues to play the way he is then what?

    Like Hak and probably others have stated. Brooks and Yao dont work well together. Brooks is one of the worst players in passing to the post. Yao is to slow to work towards the ball. Something needs to change here. Considering Yao is going nowhere you move the sg, i mean pg.

    If the team wants to get younger than its fine but you dont want young players that need a lot of time to develop. Thats why i see Houston trading those first round picks from the knicks.
     
  20. Joe Joe

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    Time? Brooks is best point guard the Rockets have.
     

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