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Mutombo likely to return, Our off-season is likely over?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Sanjaylucknow, Sep 6, 2007.

  1. pacman

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    Weren't the Celtics looking for three point shooters to open up the low post for Garnett? Introducing Rafer Alston , reportedly second in the NBA last season in three pointers attempted.
     
  2. Uprising

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    I know man. I miss all those guys from that group....so much FIRE and anger. Loved it.

    Our new team seems that they could have some of that with the addition of Stevie.
     
  3. ThePrivate

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    that ain't no lie. unfortunately, the celtics are near luxury tax range. it would have to be a 3 way trade for it to work. :D
     
  4. LAYGO

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    Ya'll scare me with the depth of knowledge ya'll have for basketball! ;)
     
  5. SpiffyRifi

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    I actually like Snyder quite a bit. I think he's very athletic and can drive to the hoop strong. That being said, I don't think there's room for him on this team. I'll take Luther over Snyder (especially since this is Luther's 3rd year in the leauge) and I think Snyder is too good to be a 12th man which is what I think he'll be if he remains on the Rockets...that or inactive. But seeing as we got him for cash, what could we really get for him in trade?
     
  6. ktvoss

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    Synder started last year in the beginning of the season for the bald-headed man so that there should tell you something about how vaulable he actually is and how much he can do and produce as a player in this league. Luther is a three point shooter that is one-dimensional. Not saying Head is whack because he is a good role player to have on your team all those clutch shots him and Novak can be our BJ Armstrong and John Paxson.
     
  7. OrangeRowdy95

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    Deke's right. The Rockets had as good a chance last year. Too bad TMac got tired and didn't step it up in the 4th quarter when it mattered most. Everyone else showed up that quarter.
     
  8. Desert Scar

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    Except there is no reason in the world for the Rockets to use that exemption when they can use non-Bird or EB rights rights to resign Deke as their own free agent. Besides the bi-annual is 1.83 mil, not the 1.9 reported the Rockets offered. The 1.9mil appears to be the Rockets upper limit for lux tax reasons (and at least recognizes him as worth above the LLE/bi-annual), not salary cap reasons.

    Probably right about this.
     
  9. Fuse

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    I'm still hopeful that we trade for Jeff Foster. He is the banger/rebounder that we need down low.
     
  10. Desert Scar

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    I trade Rafer + filler for him (their pick of Snyder, Butler, Reed, JL3, Novak). They might ask for Rafer and Head--and then I don't like that value so well.
     
  11. ThePrivate

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    yeah, i don't know why fran wrote 1.9 million (the bi-annual can't even be rounded to 1.9), but deke will sign the rockets offer of the bi-annual exception.
     
  12. xiki

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    Danny Ain't turned down even a look-see of Troy Hudson. Rafer is def not on his radar.
     
  13. xiki

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    Off the top of my head it would appear, at least to me, that Milwaukee could match up with Rox:

    Rafe + Novak (Marquette) + Snyder + Luther /// Gadzuric + (SnT) Bell.

    It could assist two teams' roster (and in Bucks' case inability to sign Bell) loads and needs.
     
  14. Fuse

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    Very interesting proposition... I would do that in a heartbeat.
     
  15. Desert Scar

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    We don't need to use a bi-annual exemeption/LLE at all I believe. We should have his Bird Rights and can offer anything we want (up to the max) salary cap wise. I suspect the 1.9mil is what we feel is the best offer value/lux tax wise--and at least is a tad higher than the LLE/1.83mil mark.
     
  16. ThePrivate

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    bird rights doesn't work like that. he has only been with the rockets for 2 years. bird rights kick in after 3 years with 1 team. again, with the rockets over the salary cap and since they used the mle on scola and francis, they can only offer deke the 1.2 veteran's minimum or the bi-annual exception. the rockets did indeed offer him the veteran's minimum, and as expected deke turned it down. but he will accept the bi-annual exception.
     
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    ...................still holding out for Camby.
     
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    A much bigger problem for the Rox than meeting the 12-man roster will be paring it down to those who get the bulk of playing time over the course of the season. Even with Adelman, the rotation's only going 8, 9 deep at most.

    I'm almost hoping for some people to get injured early, for maybe only a month or so (and nothing chronic of course like McGrady's back or Yao's legs/shoulder) just to keep everyone else happy about their play. Battier, I'm looking at you! Take one for the team, sprain an ankle for Bonzi... :)
     
  19. Desert Scar

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    Deke has been with the Rockets 04-05, 05-06 and 06-07. Full Bird Rights come with players who have been "....have played for three seasons without being waived or changing teams as a free agent. This means a player can obtain "Bird rights" by playing under three one-year contracts, a single contract of at least three years, or any combination."

    http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#19
    http://www.realgm.com/src_playerfile/369/dikembe_mutombo/

    Unless there is some way we renounced those rights, and I don't see how we could have, we should his Bird Rights.

    Even if we didn't have his full Bird Rights (<3 years) we should have been able to do 1.25 X his last seasons salary of 2.2 mil in a 1 year deal via the "Non-Qualifying Veteran Free Agents" exemption. (Since Early Birds have to be 2 years or more and that takes that option away)
     
  20. xiki

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    Not a proposition, just a team with a match-up situation which would seem to well, match up (including extent of RA and DG's contracts)...and, yes, I'd do it in a NYMinute if I were both teams.
     

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