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Must.Take.Ball. Out.Of.Brooks'.Hands

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by michecon, Apr 28, 2009.

  1. DaDakota

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    2 great games, 3 sub par shooting games, but overall, not a bad series as the team is up 3-2.....

    Again...2nd year player people, learn it, know it, love it.

    And Sam, Ron is not a distraction he is a PROBLEM on the offensive end, has been all year, it is just that now, we are playing better teams and he gets exposed....

    Ron Artest is not half as good as he thinks he is...

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  2. Mr. Clutch

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    How would you rate his running of the offense?
     
  3. DaDakota

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    I would say that it is a team game and many times Ron has the ball at the top of the key and that AB does not run the team the entire time.

    Actually, I think Brooks is doing the job he is supposed to do, penetrate and put pressure on the opposing defense.

    Has he been great? No, but he is a young PG, they take time to learn how to play the game correctly.

    I think expectations of people here are what is out of wack......

    And overall...3-2......is better than 2-3.

    DD
     
  4. TXRoxBBall

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    This series will be decided in the Rockets favor only if Aaron and Ron step up. If not, it's on them imo. Brooks nor Ron can be trusted with the ball. They go through spells where they won't shoot, dribble like crazy, or shoot regardless of the situation. You can't have two guys playing at the same time that play like that. Aaron needs to go to the bench and let Lowry start.
     
  5. DaDakota

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    DEAR GOD NO !!!!

    Did you see Lowry's stats? He has been AWFUL..

    4.8ppg
    .353 FG%
    .333 3pt%
    1.4 Apg
    1.6 TOpg
    .880 Assist to turnover ratio (PUTRID for a PG)


    DD
     
  6. choujie

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    Ab has been playing worse and worse in each game. One big reason is Portland figured out how to defend him.

    In the last game, they simply contested his 3s, let him drive, then put more than one guy on him in the paint, knowing he'd either get blocked or throw up a prayer. They don't worry about his passing after penetration at all, it is very rare for AB to make a good pass to open teammates.

    Game 1 is just a fluke, for Rockets and AB.
     
  7. DaDakota

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    They adjusted their defense and there is one player getting a lot of wide open shots that is not named Scola, and he is shooting below 38%......look to the number 96 for the bigger problem.

    DD
     
  8. choujie

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    Lowry played very poor except 4th quarter in game 4. But that still doesn't make AB look any good.

    Add what Artest has been doing, Rockets back court is simply awful. That's why some people start to miss Alston and Tmac.

    Morey need to address Rox back court issue in the off season. AB is not the solution for a championship team.
     
  9. DaDakota

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    I am sorry, this is just flat out silly.

    Tmac and Rafer have not gotten out of the first round and are inefficient players.

    They both STRUGGLE mightily in the playoffs.

    This is just a case of missing what you don't have but not really thinking it through.

    Brooks will have the last laugh.....BTW, how is Rafer doing in the playoffs this season?

    DD
     
  10. choujie

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    Artest is shooting terrible too, and his defense on Roy isn't elite. I'll give you that. But AB's non-stop dribbe has done as much damage as Artest's bad shots, if now more. It kills the entire offensive flow, and our starting PG is doing that.
     
  11. DaDakota

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    Artest and Brooks both dribble too much at least Brooks can get by his man.....

    Brooks at least is shooting a decent percentage....Ron....well, he has stunk....


    DD
     
  12. choujie

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    What silly? I didn't miss Alston, he's not the long term solution either,but some posters do. I just mentioned that.

    But Tmac has done pretty well in post season, you can't just discount that by your dislike of him.

    As bad as Alston is, he did have a pretty good series last year and he could run the team better than AB. If you can't see that, you are in deniel.

    The real silly thing is hope AB turns into a championship level PG. It's not gonna happen. A 25 year old undersized guy with tunnel vision is not going to develop into anything more than an average PG.
     
  13. choujie

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    Artest usually dribbles at the end of possesion without much time left, AB usually dribbles at the start of the possesion, wasting valuable time. The latter does more damage than the former.

    What's so good for AB about get by his man if he can't either finish nor pass to open guy??
     
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    Brooks's series percentage is misleading. After the first two game we split, he was shooting 19-29 from the floor (66%). In the past 3 games, he's shot 10-36 (28%) from the field, 2-12 on 3-pointers (17%), and 7-12 on free throws (58%).
     
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    2 things we need NEXT YEAR


    A TRUE PG

    and

    A BACKUP C
     
  16. choujie

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    That's right. DD doesn't see the big picture that AB has been playing worse each game.

    And AB wasn't hitting shots in game 2 either, until Portland let him shoot those wild 3s to avoid possible 4 point plays.
     
  17. TXRoxBBall

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    Lowry made some big plays in game 4 that didn't get counted on the sheets. Brooks has made some big mistakes that while counted on the stat sheets is not indicitive of how big a mistake it was. Last time I checked there's not a stat for ill advised shots. Aaron and Ron have a bunch of those. Lowry doesn't.
     
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    In AB's defense, he's getting all sorts of mixed messages. After games 3 and 4, people were talking about how he needed to be more aggressive. I think that's one of the thing the coaches talked to him about. And we've heard it over and over, they want Brooks to be the guy that runs the show down the stretch of games. When he tries to take on that role, and he plays bad, we complain that he's shooting too much or not looking to get others involved.
     
  19. chewy016

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    how bout kirk hinrich, steve nash, or mike bibby. or trade everyone but the kitchen sink and yao for wade.
     
  20. superpro

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    May I ask why we are in this kind of situation time and time again?

    Let me try to name the guards we had in the last decade:

    Rafer the “tear drop" and "TO under pressure"
    Aaron Brooks
    Moochie Norris - the ugliest cheerleader
    Charlie Ward
    Luther Head
    John Lucas
    Greek "T-Mac"
    Andre Barrett
    Tyronne Lue
    Rod Strickland
    Charlie Ward
    Marc Jackson
    Mike Wilds
    Tito Maddox
    Tierre Brown
    Sean Colson

    Man, how painful to be a Rockets fan in the past 10 years! Painful! That must have been bad management! How come you can have Moochie Norris as your point guard for that long?!!! A consecutive 5 years?
     

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