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Must.Take.Ball. Out.Of.Brooks'.Hands

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by michecon, Apr 28, 2009.

  1. wnes

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    He sure burned Portland in game 1, but not much so in game 2. As others have said, a big chunk of his points were made when the game was already out of reach. Those were non-pressure points, hardly mean anything other than garbage points. Same is true about Yao's monstrous production in the final game of Houston-Dallas series in 2005 playoffs, looking good on stats but useless otherwise.

    The rest of the Houston squad did pick up the slack despite the poor showing of Brooks since game 2. That explains we are still leading the series 3-2.

    Opponents adjusted and exposed Brooks like a rat on a dissecting table. Since you are saying Brooks is learning, what did he learn?
     
  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    He is tied for the team lead in assists, has an excellent assist to turnover ratio, and is shooting a good percentage.

    I think he is learning on the job.

    Meanwhile, Ron has been in the league for years and is still a knucklehead....mayhaps we should be looking elsewhere for a scapegoat?

    DD
     
  3. choujie

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    The 19 year old Tony Parker was all rookie 1st team.

    The 24 year old 2nd year Aaron Brooks still wouldn't make all rookie team even if he's qualified for that.

    That tells you about what potential diference between Tony Parker and Aaron Brooks.
     
  4. DaDakota

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    It is all about opportunity.....Wafer was a discarded player too until he got the opportunity, some players mature at different times.

    Tony Parker had international ball experience, which made him a little further along when he came into the league, but not by much...AB has the same potential.

    Doesn't mean he will get there, but he might.

    BTW - AB has started, what? Like 33 games...come on......seriously.....have a little comprehension for what is going on here.

    DD
     
  5. choujie

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    Yao's production in that game 7 was not garbage points. He did the most in 1st 3 quarters, ran out of gas in 4th quarter.

    I agree it's still meaningless becasue the game was a blew-up from the beginning.
     
  6. LabMouse

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    DD must drink too much today, Brooks is only one who does not know what to do on the court, even Artest becomes better recently, any place I go, I can find the fans who are saying bad things for Brooks, it is just a bad time for him to not play under the control.

     
  7. DaDakota

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    I am sure a lot of people are criticizing him.....most fans have a remedial understanding of the game.

    It's cool.....in a couple of years when Brooks has developed they will get it.

    This is not about this year it is about the future of the team.

    DD
     
  8. leebigez

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    I'll jump in this fight. Brooks is cool and doing what tbe coach is asking him to do. Anytime u can get into the paint as a pg, ur doing ur job of breaking the defense down from the middle. Is he making the greatest decisions? No, but neither are the others standing and watching. Just like DD said it would help if we didn't have 2 guys hovering around the 3 pt line. Scola has no problem getting passes from brooks in open spots. Why? Because he making himself availible which is key.

    All this still goes back to my complaints about poor team construction. This team needs more players like brooks, wafer,and lowry because u can't have a fluid offense built around the idea yao will get doubled. The offense and players have to be able to survive and thrive if they portland and a team like utah can make yao stop his feet and reset his feet. When this is done, its basically a dead play and others have to make plays. I've seen this happen when teams or fans want to give up on young pg's. Go and look at billups and nash 1st 30 starts and tell me what was so special. Go look at mo williams and look at his maturation as a lead guard. Of course since tracy is injured and rafer is traded, brooks is the reason why the offense is struggling.
     
  9. LabMouse

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    Brooks needs play like Parker, attack, and attack, not dribble, and dribble. He need shot the ball when he is left open, and pass when he is covered. He is not doing any of those. I do not see a good future from him right now.

     
  10. choujie

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    Again, you keep overrating AB and Wafer. I don't want to talk about ultra-one-dimensional Wafer in this thread, so I'll focus on AB.

    AB has 4 years college experience, Parker only played international ball for 2 years before he was drafted.

    The fact is AB played 2 years in NBA now, has more total minutes than Parker when he was 19, and still can't outplay Parker at that age, and you still claim AB has the same potential as Parker???

    Why don't you claim every kid in the word who hasn't played in NBA has the same potential as Parker?

    You gotta be dreaming pretty hard.
     
  11. choujie

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    Hopefully you'll get it when Brooks is not starting for anyone in NBA in two years.
     
  12. doublebogey

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    That's call Mike Jame/Luther Head/Mike Harris phenomenon. It's also called "Our Scrubs is better than Yours and they can be a star someday" phenomenon. It'll last for another season before these Brooks lovers turn against him and become Brooks bashers. It's nothing new in this board.

    Tony Parker runs zigzag, makes double spin moves in the lane and he still can have his body control and finish the basket. Arghhhhh, Brooks!!!??? Maybe Brooks can do it in another life. The is a ~15% FG% difference in the restricted area between Parker and Brooks.

    Someone call Brooks a 40.6% shooter a good shooter/scorer and Alston a 38.6% shooter a bad shooter/scorer - 2% difference. That's where it gets funny.
     
  13. choujie

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    Exactly. All those potential futures like Nachbar, Greek Tmac(I liked him too), Head, Novak etc are either out of the league or still play like scrubs.
     
  14. harryrms

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    That's right. He's been hesitating too much in the last three games. Either
    attack/shoot or pass it up. I still like to try more Scola/Yao p&r with
    Aaron and see how it works.

     
  15. tnopham

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    he's just one stellar game away from changing everyone's mind.
     
  16. choujie

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    Everybody would like him to have a great game. Critisize him doesn't mean want him to fail.
     
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    Apparently Darryl Morey the GM is high on him, this is why we traded away Rafer Alston. A players development often comes down to coaching and the system. There is no doubt that AB can be a solid point guard in the league; but he also needs good coaching to improve.
     
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    Brooks will have another horrible game. The "give Yao the ball" thing totally killed AB's game.

    I am waiting for another Rockets loss, hopefully a close one if we are lucky.
     
  19. choujie

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    We traded away Alston because we got Lowry, not because AB. Otherwise just let AB start and bring Alston off the bench, it's that simple.

    Since Tmac goes down, there is no hope we'd win championship this year, so planning for the future is what management is doing. That's why we have two young PGs now.

    Right now we stuck in this situation and there is nothing else Morey can say even if he might be low on AB.

    There is much doubt if AB can be a solid starting PG in the league instead of "no doubt". I don't see too much evidence and quality from AB to eliminate my doubt.

    Next year, I hope Lowry gets the chance to develop instead of AB. I see more potential in Lowry.
     
  20. real_egal

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    A starting Point Guard of a 53 win playoff team in the Western Conference, can't handle the "huge pressure" after coach tells him to try to utilize the all-star center a little bit more.

    Besides, you seem to be waiting for Rockets loss anytime anyways.
     

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