Muslims seek to supplant Canadian law with Sharia

What about a case of female genital mutilation? The legislature says its illegal, the local imam says it ok. What then? They live in the west but don't get the protections afforded everyone else? The article points out that women in particular fear this as the males in their cultures would use it to deny them their rights.

 

Do you think its possible someone who signed such an agreement because of overt pressure or fear of being ostacized might not, when an unfavorable ruling is inevitably handed, NOT then run to the canadian government and protest that they signed under duress? Isn't it better just to work within the system that guarantees their rights?

 

hmmm, then why do they need to change the system in canada at all?

"The lines are drawn, the divisions are clear and one can only watch with mounting interest the outcome. The issue involves family and personal law. A conservative section of Canadian Muslims, many of them Pakistanis, would like to have personal and family disputes, and questions arising out of such disputes, settled in accordance with what they call Shari’a law instead of laws applicable to other Canadians."

Could it be that the outcomes under Sharia law would not be acceptable under Canadian law? It must be so, right? What kinds of things could those be? Stoning has been mentioned. FGM has been mentioned. Wife beating? Honor killing? What kind of issues can they not currently opt out of the canadian courts for.

For someone who worries about what OUR society teaches little girls to be, I'd think you be more concerned about this - especially when its women who are protesting most vehemently.

 

Sorry, Max. If you were right then why the protests? Unfortunately you are wrong on this one, although I applaud your attempt to be open minded. Of course, don't take my word for it. This is a bit long but it spells out the concerns as seen by the Canadian Council of Muslim Women. As you'll see, they specifically set out to avoid indicting Islam as a whole, so there not too much room for accusations of bias. Not suprisingly they outline some of the same concerns I mention earlier in the thread. I put some of the main points in bold.


CANADIAN COUNCIL OF MUSLIM WOMEN:

POSITION STATEMENT ON THE PROPOSED IMPLEMENTATION OF SECTIONS OF MUSLIM LAW [SHARIA] IN CANADA.

The Sharia Proposal:

We have discussed the issue of implementing Sharia/Muslim family law with those who are proposing it and we wonder about the motivation. For example, we are concerned with some of the written statements made by Mr Mumtaz Ali, one of the founders of the Islamic Institute of Civil Justice, which stress that not following the option is œtantamount to heresy-apostasy This sort of coercion belies the voluntary nature of the binding arbitration. Others have dismissed our concerns without providing any rationale as to why Canadian law should not be followed.

Definition of Sharia:

The word Sharia, is defined as œthe path leading to the water i.e. a way to the very source of life and means the way Muslims are to live. In the early years of Islamic development the word Sharia was not used, as other terms such as fiqh, [jurisprudence] deen [faith] and ilm [knowledge] were more prevalent.

The schools of jurisprudence, fiqh, developed as a system in the mid 8th CE and Sharia became identified more narrowly with law, rather than with deen or faith. As Muslim law, it was interpreted over 100 years after the death of the Prophet Mohammad, by jurists in different countries, who themselves insisted that these were but interpretations

Islam is a world-wide religion and the traditions and practices vary from region to region. Muslims are not of one opinion about the laws of Sharia, e.g. criminal or family, and there is disagreement as to whether Sharia laws are divine laws or whether they are man made, based on the divine text, the Quran. There is also ongoing debate about the static or evolving nature of the jurisprudence and its adaptation to the realities of todays world.

The Canadian Council of Muslim Women, a pro-faith national organization, makes a clear statement that we are not against Sharia, correctly defined, but what we are against is the application of Muslim family law. We know that there is no uniform understanding, interpretation or application of the law which is complex, applied differentially in different countries, and in some instances the practices are detrimental for women. It is difficult to comprehend how it will be applied in Canada.

Muslims have Five Beliefs and Five Pillars of Practice and there is no sixth pillar or belief which states that Muslims have to practise fiqh [Muslim jurisprudence].

CCMW Concerns:

We can identify certain worrying themes related to the proposal.

a] As newer immigrants, Muslims are searching for markers to identify themselves as a faith group and the use of Sharia/Muslim family law is being used as one such marker.

We are concerned that, in deference to their religious beliefs, some Canadian Muslim women may be persuaded to use the Muslim family law/Sharia option, rather than seeking protection under the law of the land. The argument is that to be a good Muslim one must live under Muslim family law, and that this is an issue of religious freedom or human rights. Although none of these statements is accurate, they may sound convincing to some.

We share the anxieties of being new immigrants and a minority, but fear that these can drive Canadian Muslims to construct an identity which incorporates all sorts of elements, including living under Muslim law, so as to demarcate what it is to be Muslim. But not all of these elements are essential to living in Canada as practising Muslims.

b] Using the extreme argument that this is the right of religious freedom, even if inaccurate, makes other Canadians and politicians wary of any analysis and resolution of the issue. The issue of separation of state and institutionalized religion needs to be clarified in the context of religious freedom and multiculturalism policies.

We acknowledge the well meaning intentions of some to reflect the sensitivities of Canadian Muslims, and for their need to have a presence and some power in society to ensure their interests are met. However, the introduction of a Muslim family law/ Sharia council may not solve the problem, and in fact may exacerbate the issues for families.

c] The other cry is to state that this is multiculturalism. This is another false argument, because in fact it is really a misuse of the policy. Multiculturalism was never meant to take away the equality rights of a group such as those of Muslim women.

d] Another theme is that instead of addressing the issues resulting from the inefficiencies or ineffectiveness of the federal / provincial court system, the government has allowed for the growth of privatization of the legal system and the lowering of some of the safeguards.

We are not naaive and know that there are issues with Canadian law. However these can be challenged by the concerted efforts of all Canadians, without reference to anyones religious or cultural beliefs.

CCMW Position on the application of Muslim family law and human rights for Muslim Women.

CCMW holds that human rights as declared in the United Nations Universal Declaration are consistent with the ideals of Islam, and as believing Muslim women we can adhere to the Quran and to the U.N Declaration. We see no contradiction between the rights and responsibilities as expressed in the divine message and those articulated by the nations of the world. As Canadian Muslim women we uphold the Charter of Rights and Freedoms and expect it to apply to us as fully as to any other Canadian

There is no incongruity between the Quran and the U.N declaration which recognizes the œinherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world. Further, it states that œ a common understanding of these rights and freedoms is of the greatest importance for the full realization of this pledge. We believe that all peoples must come to a recognition of the commonality and universality of these rights as they do not contradict nor are they limited to a specific culture or country.

An important right in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 7 states œall are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law.

We again state clearly and strongly that we are not against Sharia, as the beaten path leading to water, and a metaphor for how Muslims are to live. The term Sharia is misused for the narrower term of jurisprudence, i.e. Muslim law, and our concerns focus on the application of one aspect of Muslim law, which is the family law. Although some Muslims are insisting that living under traditional Muslim law is mandatory and are arguing for its use as a marker of Muslim identity, CCMW and others, believe that there is no Belief nor Practice which states such a position. 4

We acknowledge that the current debate in some countries regarding the introduction of Muslim family law is part of the political use of religion, and in Canada we must be cautious not to be caught up by the politicization of religion.

CCMW is cognizant that our stand, regarding Muslim law, places us in a difficult position. We are a pro-faith organization of Muslim women, we do not want to provide further ammunition to those who are keen to malign Islam and yet we must be honest about the issues which affect us within the Muslim and non- Muslim communities. Silence is not an option.

We know that Muslim law is not monolithic, nor simple, nor applied consistently across the world and so we seriously question how it will be applied here in Canada and why is it needed here? The idealization of Muslim law based on a patriarchal family model does not work for women. We suggest that as with any law, it is problematic to apply some aspects and not consider the œtotality of the system, its context and its underpinning principles.

CCMW sees no compelling reason to live under any other form of law in Canada, as we want the same laws to apply to us as to other Canadian women. We like the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, which safeguard and protect our equality rights. We know that the values of compassion, social justice and human rights, including equality, are the common basis of Islam and Canadian law.

Therefore CCMWs objective is to assist Canadian Muslim women to live under laws which safeguard these Islamic ideals. To achieve this objective, we are collaborating with other groups to research the questions we have raised; to publish our findings and to write a paper for Muslim women, politicians, sister organizations and the media about the ramifications of adhering to Canadian or Muslim family law. As part of this project, CCMW will consult with Muslim women, originating from Africa, Middle East, South Asia, South East Asia and those who are Canadian-born, to learn about their concerns and opinions regarding both Canadian and Muslim law for Canada.

CCMW is advocating with law makers that there has to be a common civil code for all citizens of Canada and allowing the use of other legal systems discriminates against a group of Canadian women

Research On the Application of Sharia:

Of interest to Canada, is the research, œKnowing Our Rights: Women, family, laws, and customs in the Muslim World completed in 2003, by the network, WOMEN LIVING UNDER MUSLIM LAW [WLUML] The research was on 15 countries which apply Sharia law and its impact on women.

What they found was that the laws varied greatly from country to country.

What is assumed to be Muslim in one community may be unknown, or even be considered un-Islamic, in other Muslim communities

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The fact that these laws are not sacrosanct but are man-made [literally so because women were excluded from the law making process] is often obscured by those attempting to gain moral and political authority from them. Equally obscured is the diversity of Muslim laws, which reflects the various and changing concerns of the societies from which they emerged

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Some countries where Muslim law is applied, such as Tunisia, have interpreted the law as limiting marriage to monogamy, while others like Pakistan, allow polygamy if the first wife agrees. Other examples are that in the Sharia schools of jurisprudence [fiqh] inheritance laws favour males; a husband can divorce his wife without legal recourse; financial support for wives can be for a limited time period only; granting of alimony is questionable; division of property can be against the womans interest and child custody can be given to fathers, according to the age of the child. Muslim family law/Sharia also permits polygamy and so this could be permitted in Canada.

These practices may work in some countries such as Saudi Arabia, but the reality of most Canadian families is quite different.

Conclusion of the WLUML Research:

The WLUML report cautions that States, [e.g. Canada] must be careful not to fall into the trap of œnot interfering in the traditions of the Muslim communities for such apparent sensitivity concerning community rights is often, in effect, a very calculated policy of discrimination P35.

Example of the use of Sharia/Muslim family law and its effect on a Muslim woman.

In the mid 1980s, an Indian Muslim woman was divorced by her husband of many years. According to the Muslim family law used in India, she was given maintenance for a 3 month period at the dissolution of her marriage. This left her destitute, and the courts ruled that she was entitled to maintenance from her husband.

The Indian court decision caused an uproar amongst many Indian Muslims as they perceived this as interference with Sharia, and the government of the day, rescinded the courts decision. 6

A memorandum was submitted to the Prime Minister, from a number of concerned Muslims, in 1986, and they said:

Regardless of the rights and privileges that Islam may have conferred on Muslim women, they should not be denied the rights guaranteed by the Indian Constitution based on the recognition of equality, justice and fraternity of all citizens. It is imperative in a secular polity like ours to go beyond the rights conferred by various religions in order to evolve laws which would provide justice and succour to all women, irrespective of their religious beliefs *

We submit that this applies in Canada as well.

[Quoted on p99 of Shahbano and the Muslim Women Act: A Decade On. Published by WLUML,1998].8

Risks of Permissive Canadian Legislation:

We are very concerned that the laws of Canada are allowing the use of other systems of law in this country. We have been told by the federal and the provincial governments that under the provincial Arbitration Act, it is legally possible to use Muslim family laws or any other legal system for binding arbitration.

If Muslim family law/Sharia is allowed to be used for binding arbitration, there seem to be no provisions within the court system which will ensure that agreements do not result in unjust settlements for Muslim women. The Act does not require legal representation for women, nor that records are to be kept of the arbitration process, nor any criteria for the skills/training of arbitrators. Only the award goes forward to the courts and how the court is to decide on its merits is a moot point because again the Act allows for unequal arrangements if the woman agrees and the government states that it has no role in arbitration deals.

We point out that the œvoluntary nature of the womans agreement may be coloured by the coercion put upon her that she is being a good Muslim by following some arbitrators interpretation of Sharia/Muslim family law.

We have received a letter from the Ontario Attorney Generals office, dated April 26/04, which explains what the Arbitration Act can and can not do to protect women in the process of binding arbitration. We are very concerned that the government seems to have little interest in ensuring the equality rights of Muslim women, because the Act is so open. CCMW is writing to the Premier regarding the Act and its misuse for family matters.

Our questions still remain unanswered: will this result in a two- tier system of justice for Canadian Muslim women, comprised of binding arbitration according to Sharia/Muslim family law, and court system as an overseer? Who will be the Arbitrators, what will be their training not only in Canadian law but in a complex, variant system of law, and who will ensure the competency of the individuals who will serve as Islamic jurists in applying Sharia/Muslim family law in the Canadian context?

Binding Arbitration or Informal Mediation:

We are aware that there are many informal mediation bodies functioning in Muslim and non-Muslim settings. However, informal mediation is very different from a binding arbitrated settlement. Once parties agree to the binding arbitration, but find that they are dissatisfied with the decision they must pursue any redress from the court system.

Some argue that using binding arbitration, with Muslim law, only formalizes the informal mediation which is currently taking place. We disagree. What is being proposed is the immediate implementation by people who, however well meaning, have little in-depth knowledge or understanding, who may know about some schools of jurisprudence only, but feel qualified to deal in legal matters and make œexpert judgements for binding arbitration.

This sounds no different to what is now occurring, except there is the added danger that binding arbitration, using Muslim family law, will be given legitimacy and respectability under Canadian law.

It is also important to note that the use of arbitration for commercial or other similar issues is distinct from its use for matters of public interest, such as family disputes and resolutions. This use is qualitatively different and requires particular safeguards.

Request for a written public proposal from the proponents of Muslim family law.

We have not heard if any of the proponents have made public a comprehensive proposal. The proposal needs to include details such as the structure, procedures, maintenance of written public records, representation for both parties, the schools of jurisprudence to be used and the training of the arbitrators. The proposal must be in legal, statutory language and each issue in family law must be assessed against the Charter of Rights and Freedom. This means that they will demonstrate how they propose to ensure that equality rights will be upheld by the proposed use of their interpretation of Muslim family law. The proposal should have a built in public evaluation so that the practices are transparent and open to all.

Issues within the Canadian Legal System:

We understand that because there are cost inefficiencies or ineffectiveness within the court system there is a growing alternative system of law, outside the courts, in an attempt to address the court backlogs and costs associated with resolving family disputes.

Within this context, we have a real concern that rather than attempting to address the issues of the traditional justice system, policy makers are focusing on mediation and other forms of settling disputes as an expedient and cost saving option. The alternative system may have certain advantages but consideration has not been given to the impact on women and children.

The 1998 research, Family Mediation in Canada: Implications for Women in Canada [by Equality Matters and the National Association of Women and the Law] on the publicly funded Canadian Mediation Programs, pointed out the difficulties for women who use this system of mediation. According to the paper, there appear to be no criteria to measure whether womens equality is protected or undermined. Also, family mediation services are œremoved from state regulation and public scrutiny and œno public record detailing the nature of the dispute or the terms of the agreement is necessarily attached to a mediated case.

As to arbitration, the report states that arbitration is a

private process that is similar to litigation or court adjudication, except that [1] the parties name a neutral third party, the arbitrator, and [2] the arbitrator is bound neither by the rules of court nor the law of evidence. The parties give the arbitrator the authority to make binding decision on particular issues in disputes

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Even with these difficulties with mediation and with arbitration, we have learnt that there may not be legal assurances put in place to ensure Muslim womens rights are protected when they obtain binding arbitrated agreements using Muslim family law.

It is worrying that there may not be any monitoring of womens equality rights. Further, the proposed binding arbitration within a realm of œprivatization and removal from public scrutiny should be a major concern to lawmakers in terms of justice and equality of both parties. Canadian Muslim women may be treated differentially from other Canadian women in family disputes regarding marriage, property settlements and child custody.

Media

There has been high media interest in this topic and along with the Canadian media, CCMW has been contacted by media from Italy, Austria, Holland, France and the U.S.A. CCMW has been told that some countries such as Yemen, has had coverage stating that if a western country is allowing Sharia/Muslim family law, then others should follow suit. Canada will set a potentially dangerous precedent and all the more reason to consider the matter seriously.

Quotes regarding the voluntary nature of consent.

We provide these quotes because we have seen the proponents offer differing statements to the media.

In the document of Mr Mumtaz Ali [The Islamic Institute of Civil Justice] states on page 15.

then the court will hand them over to an arbitration board for a final decision, a binding ruling. That ruling would be final and would not be subject to the approval by secular court

a Muslim who would choose to opt out at this stage, for reasons of convenience would be guilty of a far greater crime than a mere breach of contract-this could be tantamount to blasphemy-apostasy.

...people are marginalized by their faith in a country [Canada] which only pays lip service to the rhetoric of democracy and freedom...