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Muslims in Texas Walk a Fine Line

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rocketsjudoka, May 6, 2015.

  1. LosPollosHermanos

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    you're making too much sense for the D&D. People want to get up with their pitchforks and congregate to hate on certain people.
     
  2. Dairy Ashford

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    Houston is much nicer.
     
  3. thumbs

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    You are correct. I should have used "general social acceptance" rather than "social integration."
     
  4. sammy

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    I'm not religious.

    Good Muslims hold to their faith. Your comment is nonsensical but you weren't really thinking when you made this post and that's clear. Lol
     
  5. tinman

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    Hakeem is a Texas Muslim
     
  6. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Right because if Texas was truly a big racist republic, not a single Muslim or minority would have a job or succeed. It's black or white - nothing in between, and no pun intended.


    What a douche bag.
     
  7. peleincubus

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    yeah and build a lifelike statue of him and see what happens to you.
     
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    How sweet that was
     
  9. Faust

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    durvasa is right when talking about responsible speech and what fine line actually means. and i think most conservatives are like mr clutch... they see everything in black and white. if you dont say the same things they say or with the same loudness then your suspected of sympathizing with the enemy. enemy can be moslems, socialists, communists, immigrants, blacks, druggies. this one guy at my local bar was shouting about mexicans taking over our country and i just pointed out that a lot of them are pretty hard working and pay taxes but cant take nothing back from the system. he got all squinty eyed and accused me of loving wetbacks and stuff.
     
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    A couple of lone wolves attempt to dream-shake you to death?
     
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    Pretty sure CF clapped and cheered when that video of a guy getting knocked out for saying the n word got posted
     
  12. durvasa

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    I realize that. But there are people who are conflating this disagreement with a disagreement on one's right to express it. Not saying the latter doesn't exist, but I believe the vast majority of people here who disagree with the choice of these people to stage their exhibit also recognize that they had a right to do so.
     
  13. rocketsjudoka

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    That is an excellent point. I a lot of people say that they are for free speech and it is easy here to defend free speech when the ones it is offending are a minority that many already hold in distrust. When it comes to the things like the fact that we have to use the 'N-word', instead of what it actually is, a word that we consider so bad already that it is filtered out when even typed, shows exactly how powerful speech is.

    Another example I would bring up is the Westboro Baptist Church. If a soldier were to punch out a member of the Church during one of their protests I suspect those of saying that free speech is never a cause for violence probably would not be objecting to that.

    Saying free speech is sacrosanct and should never be a basis for violence is easy to say in the abstract but I suspect when it's target is something that you find personally valuable that might be a different matter.

    In the case of the Muslims in the article their struggle is to express that they do find cartoons of Mohamed offensive but are fearful that if they do so they will be lumped in with terrorists. In this case they are expected to essentially abandon their own personal beliefs to get along in a society where there is a lot of fear and distrust towards them. To as this thread shows there are many who would like to see their whole religion abolished. That is a very difficult fine line for anyone to walk.
     
  14. Faust

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    tell this guy you're sorry for his mother we'll see what he and the third and fifth ward think about free speech.
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    texas has long had a tradition of fighting words. i hit a guy with a pool stick really badly when he said something dirty about my friend's wife and family. everyone said i done the right thing.
     
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    What does Larenz Tate have to do with the 3rd and 5th ward? Doesn't he live in Los Angeles? :confused::confused:

    Oh I get it, he probably just moved to Houston right? Also, what's wrong with telling him sorry for his mother? I'm assuming because she's under the weather or something like that so of course the response would be "Thank you".
     
  16. Faust

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    that scene is from a movie called menace to society. larenz tate kills a korean gas station owner in that scene because the korean dude says to him, "i feel sowry for you motha". larenz tate shoots him dead because of those words. the korean said those words because of the life of crime he and his friend live. the koreans represented the minorities that work hard and succeed in america. they also represented the koreans who were hurt in the rodney king riots which took place a year before the movie was filmed. the third and fifth ward are one of the most dangerous neighborhoods in my city. i live a few minutes away from there. there are mostly blacks there. you never ever say anything to a black man or boy about their mother because it will lead to violence. i understand because of your background you dont want to hear it but its true. you also never say the n word because it will lead to violence. these people in here calling for free speech without violence are lying to us or to themselves because it doesnt apply to blacks.
     
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    If you're talking about Islam... I don't see that happening considering how fast the religion is growing... That is if it's true it's a fast growing religion or even the fastest growing religion. I'm sure that's debatable though.

    Which one of these despicable religions are you affiliated with...? Lol..

    If you are religious... There's a spiritual war going on and you're losing (along with many others).

    Nope... Just was responding to your post. And it doesn't matter what they oppose because the "so called gay agenda" is moving full steam ahead like a train with no breaks that can't be stopped. They're opposing things they can't do anything about (and or don't want to do anything about).

    Very interesting you believe the opening scene of that movie represented Koreans... Lol. I won't debate that but I will point out that the same character killed a Black guy for asking to suck his **** for a rock... You must have stopped watching after the beginning of the movie. You're making the assessment that one individual represents all and that individual in that "MOVIE" would have killed for anything. Would have been better if you would have brought up real life incidents were Black kids shot Koreans in the head for mentioning there mother instead of a movie scene.

    But you're foolish if you think you can go in a Hispanic, White, Asian, etc neighborhood (especially a poor neighborhood) with racist hate talk and think nothing will happen to you. But I see in your world you only believe something bad will happen to you if you did it in a Black neighborhood.

    Koreans are also big in the sex slave market of women and girls in the US which in many cases involve kidnapping and rape and it seems no one cares. But curse those Black folks for their freedom of speech... :rolleyes:
     
  18. DudeWah

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    In addition to this, it's intellectually dishonest that certain posters only reply with "violent responses are wrong" to every sub-discussion going on here as if there are actually posters advocating that a violent response is right. It's well established and agreed upon by I would assume everyone on this site that violent reactions have no place in society. Durvasa has some good points. The one line responses to him that do the above are intellectually dishonest.

    Mr. Clutch, I believe that's what you would refer to as being obtuse.
     
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    Yes, if Texas was racist we'd be more like Saudi Arabia or Qatar. Import poor people from struggling countries and dont give them basic protections.

    Oh, someone fell and died building soccer stadium? Who cares.

    Sure, there are racists on all sides, but it's not the main driver of life in Texas. The theme here is opportunity. That is why Muslims, Mexicans, etc come here and do well economically.

    But you want to hold onto your stereotypes of Texans as a bunch of racists because its politically good for you. Meanwhile you don't realize you're being the racist by stereotyping whole state.

    Yes, I see what you did there.
     
  20. Mr. Clutch

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    I dont really have a problem with what durvasa is saying. There's nothing really objectionable, I just emphasis a different angle to this whole situation .

    Basically, I don't have a problem with "irresponsible speech."

    I mean, who defines what is irresponsible? At some time being pro gay marriage or being pro welfare reform would have been deemed irresponsible, and now they are the consensus.

    It is concerning that people want to go down this path of labeling speech as irresponsible. No one listens to Pam Gellar. She is fringe and just talking about her like she's an important figure is giving her power.
     

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