If he can not win the argument, his narcissism requires that he insults you. Do not engage with him - he's crazy and mentally unhinged.
Ehh Comparing how women are treated in the West to how women are treated in a majority of Islamic countries is absurd and insulting to those women that have had to live/continue to live in places like Iran, Saudi Arabia and Yemen.
I'm not asking if the thread is hypocritical. I'm asking (again) if you think the way women are treated is comparable? I'll even make it multiple choice: How do you feel the treatment of women in western nations (including USA) compares to their treatment in Islamic nations? a. Better in the west b. Worse in the west c. About the same among either
Is this a serious question? I see someone changing the subject. Did you read the rest of my post? The women in the west are treated like second class citizens and still much better than they are treated in some other regions of the world like in the middle east. But the rape culture is alive and well in Europe without the need of any muslim refugees but kept alive by white european christian or athetist or whatever men. That's why this thread is hypocritical.
what's more insulting is pretending that all is alright and well to the civilised Europe that treated their own women alright before those evil muslims invaded and started raping left and right. That is the absurd and the most insulting. As is very insulting pretending that one poster here who said "who will pay for those muslim rapists to be put into prison" isn't a clear cut proof of how sexual harassment, and rape are not considered big enough deals to demand imprisinment "because it will cost too much" by most male europeans. After all what matters is the agenda. What matters is that the perpetrators are muslim not that women were victims who deserve now support and the criminals brought to justice. Because the crimes can only be used as an argument to support xenophobia but when it's time for the german state to pay, and mr aroundtheworld to have to pay himself through taxes for another geman girl to see justice...no! It's not big deal let's deport them. This whole thread is bigoted.
You can find the whole thread to be bigoted, and it may be. However the idea that women in the West are treated remotely similar to how women in a majority of Muslim nations are treated is absurd, and insulting to women that are oppressed in many Muslim nations. As far as "who is going to pay"; that is a valid concern. I don't think anyone is saying that they would rather allow criminals to run the streets of Germany over imprisonment. However the cost associated with housing criminals is fair game to consider. Who will pay for it? Germans will.... and their economy for the forseeable future will suffer as a consequence. No country has an obligation to feed, bed and grant citizenship to people of another nation. It may be the right moral thing to do in certain situations or even the "right" thing to do, but it isn't an obligation and to take it for granted is foolish. I agree with you on some issues, but the tired refrain used in topics concerning Muslim atrocities or failings is "Yeah well, things are not perfect in X." ...... no one is saying things are perfect anywhere, but they are better some places than others. For example, gun violence.... if someone in Sweden wants to criticize the USA for being more prone to gun violence, the proper response isn't to say...... well someone in Sweden has been shot before.
Hey guys, I'm bigoted towards my own demographic.:grin: You are the Ben Affleck of the D&D. Vague platitudes screaming 'BIGOT' at every turn. Posters here watch p*rn and ogle at photos of women who have consented to being ogled at and you want to make an argument that they are no different than that of a man who rapes his wife or marries a 10 year old girl or lashes at women who dress provocatively without a male guardian. **** you. The only thing you are accomplishing is draining any sympathy of feminist movements in the U.S. from male posters here.
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Yemen v. Christian S.Sudan is reasonable . Iran :bad place for men and women but more likely a non -Iranian's fan would have a different views. For Saudi v. American women : it just not fair for American women this comparison , under normal circumstances because an idiot would try to search a rare case to generalize everything . Saudi women more likely to do better for the following reasons : -won't do home cleaning,cooking,etc because they most likely have maids .her biggest fear actually is to do this stuff -won't need to work to cover her education fee because it's free. -won't pay for any house needs ,because she doest have to. -won't worry about competing with her brother because most give preferential treatment based on religious recommendation Assume she want to study in any country in the world , government pay for everything's include tuitions ,flight ticket ,health insurance,books etc , assume she want to take one companion of her relative,government will pay for that person too. -assume she want to find a job, government give companies tax credit for hiring females, an advantage males don't get . -assume ,she had a child , also government force private sector to offer day care. -assume she doest like any of the above, she hate the term" you complete each other"v. " you are both equal", or she want to work in night club or hooter etc , then other western government would give her (express refugee statue within hours.)
I wasn't intending to change the subject, as I never commented on the thread title. My apologies if that was confusing. I agree that the premise of the thread is a bit ridiculous. I never said that things were perfect for women in the West (not sure if anyone did actually, but maybe I missed it.) Obviously, it's not. What I didn't understand (which Nook captured perfectly above) is why you kept bringing up how they are treated in the west as if they are even in the same stratosphere of similar treatment. Pointing that out doesn't make someone a hypocrite.
And... these cases are reported. Frowned upon by society. Illegal. None of which apply to rape in the Islamic world. You need to actually sleep with 15-20 muslim women who have options in the West, or are prized for their beauty, have them reveal their intimate thoughts to you, to know how horrible it is to be a woman in the muslim world. And then once you understand the psyche of muslim males like you, reverting to scripture and methodical rules outlining why it's honorable for women to wear the burkha and justifying basic human rights violations, know why they're dry humping my leg after 5 minutes of conversation. To get a taste of what life is really like, outside the shed they're held captive in. Everything about this fairy tale you want to believe is not only a lie, but a spiteful one at that. Look up stockholm syndrome to see how deep you're in it. The good news is... you are never too old to be saved.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ails-in-pakistan-after-its-deemed-un-islamic/ These are the religious bodies that control government and have the support of the people in the Islamic world.
Those cases reported on campus only. If you do the math:9 college student get raped and report it per Day. Hate to go negative toward an entire American people to get into your lower level , I lived in this place, had many friends and I'm greatful for many remarkable experiences I went through it , unlike some pig who eat in one place and next minutes they poop there , but I have this to you If a cockroaches found in the US Congress library, Not many would mistakes this thing for being a Congressman, or a President or would say this thing seems to be so educated . The same principle apply to you, you don't represent the West , you can hardly make a case for your self ...I don't think you get it yet, but for the good things this society have ,you are there cockroaches or what other more people of your own society would describe you as "trash"
Lost behind the sheltered veil of the Islamic middle class, it's natural to view the elite as trash, or morally decrepit, lost to greed, capitalism, blah blah. When all you know is your captor, your tormentor, then bliss is always relative. This is a natural cause and effect of having the ability of a goat herder but the delusions of a soon to be savior thanks to a book. My suggestion? No matter how many fingers you point to the West, which you subconsciously accept as the gold standard of society, no one will care until you look in the mirror and have a good hard look at yourself. That's a little concept we call "accountability". You cannot justify your brother being a heroin addict because your neighbor is a pothead. 2 wrongs do not make a right. Forget the vengeful fairy tale that is the Koran -- use your common sense.
Common sense ! Where is that, just re-read this thread again as if it's even worth it. Many here don't necessary like Islam but they won't let a pig take them to a picnic in a mud field ,they know you cant help your self but to expose your foolishness . though you hate immigrants of all type . an Indian ,Bangladeshi and post Nazi immigrants , all agreed with you on every single issue. If you think this makes sense! Then I must be in urgent needs for medical evaluation .
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