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Muslim Group Apologizes for 9-11

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Faos, Sep 11, 2004.

  1. DonnyMost

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    I think going on the assumption that it's a very large percentage is what got us into this mess in the first place, and will lead us into lots of trouble later on. Too bad opinion and stats like that are nearly immeasurable.

    But as adeel said, they had nothing to do with it, they have no guilt to admit, therefor an apology is unnessecary.
     
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  2. gotoloveit2

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    First of all, I totally agree that whoever persons, Christians or non-Christians, who BELIEVE our government has committed all these horrible acts against the Iraqi people, while standing by apathetically all these times, should apologize. Your conscience calls upon you. You should stand with our brother glynch here to apologize to the rest of the world, especially the Iraqi people. Even more so, if you are the Christians supporting any radical priests or evangelical preachers who advocate hatred and violence against Jews, Muslims and alike. Of course, if you think our policy toward Iraq is totally justified, you don't need to apologize to anyone, except the innocent people who got caught in the cross fires, even if you are a liberal Christian. By the way, if our soldiers are sent there killing innocent people in the name of our Christian God, Christians and non-Christians alike should ALL apologize to the Iraqi people and vote out whoever responsible for it in our government.
     
  3. whag00

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    I demand an apology from the white man for slavery!!!
     
  4. MR. MEOWGI

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    People apologize for other people's actions all the time, (I'm sorry about my brother, he can be quite an ass sometimes...)
     
  5. Oski2005

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    Affirmitive action isn't an apology for slavery. The Civil Rights Act was only passed 40 years ago, that's less than a lifetime. Do you think everything has changed 100% in 40 years? It's not about guilt, it's about ensuring people have a fair shot.

    White House guidelines on affirmative action

    President Clinton asserted in a speech that while Adarand set "stricter standards to mandate reform of affirmative action, it actually reaffirmed the need for affirmative action and reaffirmed the continuing existence of systematic discrimination in the United States." In a White House memorandum on the same day, he called for the elimination of any program that "(a) creates a quota; (b) creates preferences for unqualified individuals; (c) creates reverse discrimination; or (d) continues even after its equal opportunity purposes have been achieved."

    Executive Order 10925 makes the first reference to "affirmative action"

    President John F. Kennedy issues Executive Order 10925, which creates the Committee on Equal Employment Opportunity and mandates that projects financed with federal funds "take affirmative action" to ensure that hiring and employment practices are free of racial bias.

    http://www.infoplease.com/spot/affirmativetimeline1.html


    Again, this group of is made up of all American Muslims. They don't owe anybody an apology, it's shame that they've been made to feel that they do. Should they have to apologize when they were just as victimized as the rest of us here? 9/11 was an attack on america and americans, americans shouldn't have to apologize for that.
     
  6. Faos

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    I'm sorry.
     
  7. AMS

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    Show me one thread where i flaunted brotherhood. I just added to the conversation between sane and someone else.

    Have you apologized for Colombine Lately? Those kids were raised as christians. Its so easy for people like you to attack others for trying to seperate the actions of one group and how it doesnt reflect on the whole.

    There is a group of people in India, Hindus mainly who accept that a womam should be burned alive along with the body of her husband. I never see a Hindu group come out and apologize for such disgusting acts. And I dont expect them to do so, it isnt in their religion to do this, its just people who have made their own additions to the religion who do these type of actions. shouldnt reflect on the whole religion...
     
  8. AMS

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    gotoloveit...

    Ill sit here and preach to the terrorists that what they are doing is wrong. But I wont apologize for what they did. Hell Im ashamed people are doing this in the name of Islam, heck 99 percent of the muslim world is ashamed.

    Say your brother goes and rapes the first lady. Would you write an article saying that you apologize for the actions of all members of the gotoloveit family? If you apologize, it means you had a part in what he did, when in fact you didnt.
     
  9. AMS

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    but if it came down to something serious such as murder, would you still apologize for his actions? it would just imply that you had something to do with his murder.
     
  10. MR. MEOWGI

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    Yes I would. How could you not? "I am very sorry for what my brother has done". I would even say that if there is anything that I could ever of done differently to prevent him from killing, I am sorry that I did not.
     
  11. AMS

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    so you are accepting that it was your fault that he murdered someone?
    In that case shouldnt you be tried for aiding a murderer?
     
  12. MR. MEOWGI

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    Well ultimately, he made the decision to kill, not me. As long as I know I did the best I could to prevent it from happening, I should have no guilt. But I still could be sorry that he did that and apologize for it.
     
  13. AMS

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    if you did everything in your power to prevent this action no reason you should apologize, because that just shows admission of guilt. I for one would never apologize for anothers actions, coz then it means i had a part of it.
     
  14. MR. MEOWGI

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    I'm sorry that you feel that way.
     
  15. AMS

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    I guess its a personal desicion. I feel uncomfortable apologizing for anothers actions. We just have to agree to disagree.
     
  16. Oski2005

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    That's not what these guys are doing though. They're not saying "we're sorry for what Bin Laden did," they're taking on the guilt and the responsibility themselves.
     
  17. MR. MEOWGI

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    The exact apology from the article on the website states:
    They are saying they are sorry of not doing enough to stop or prevent what happened or is happening. Good for them. But the Free Muslim Coalition is not taking direct responsibility for 9-11. If that was the case, there would be charges filed and they would be locked up.
     
  18. MadMax

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    they are apologizing for their guilt...for their perceived sins of omission....for others in their faith not standing up and saying, "no..this won't be tolerated. you won't hijack our faith. you won't hijack our God...the God we revere as holy."

    these guys aren't simply saying, "hey..we apologize because these guys who share our faith did this crap." they're apologizing for their perception that the religion, as an organized body, has failed to clean this mess up. they're apologizing because they're admitting that it's more than a radical "few" carrying this crap out.
     
  19. wizkid83

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    My question is why hasn't the Japanese apologized for what they did to China pre and during WWII. As well as the rest of Europe and U.S. Personally, I believe in let's bury the hatchet, but if you're gonna force some one to apologize, let's do it in chronological order. Don't forget the indians, the slaves, and did mongolians and Huns ever apologized for what they did to Europe?
     
  20. MadMax

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    re-read this apology. this isn't simply an apology for being Muslim and having jackasses hijack the faith. it's an apology for omissions...for failures to stand up and do something...for those who would say, "it's the israelis who are to blame for 9/11."

    you can disagree with the idea that they should be apologizing for that...but your analogy is apples and oranges. it's for activities of those many years ago...this is for inactivity of those today.
     

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