exactly. i've been burning CD's for years, and i'll continue to do so (hell, i burnt a few today). i could care less how the RIAA feels about it.
Question for you... Just like you, I have owned more 8 tracks and albums and 45's and cassettes over the years than I care to remember...and many of them have gotten wore out, destroyed, stolen or are unplayable(8 tracks)...do you also download the songs from the stuff you have owned in the past even if you no longer have the original media it came on? I hit the groups on Usenet that are generation specific (60's, 70's 80's) and they are a goldmine of old stuff that isn't even in print anymore..I feel noi guilt over this practice because I figger that I paid for the right to own these siongs and albums long ago and have every right to a digital version of it since I can no longer listen to my original albums. and to the question about collection size... I have over 5000 songs on my hard drive and thats without my entire collection of 8 tracks and cassettes being ripped. and to the issue of whether or not to buy after checking out a new band by downloading their songs. Put me down as one who will download an album to make sure it is worthy of me spending my hard-earned cash on it. If it is worthy...I go buy it. If it aint, I delete it basically people...If an artist puts out a quality product...reward them...buy the damn thing Dont make them suffer for the actions of the industry that they have little control over.
so say 20 years from now, no one knows what a VHS is and vcr's are gone. if you own a VHS of a movie from say the 80's, should you then be allowed to own the dvd of the same movie for free since you paid for it before?
That's a terrible analogy francis. Making a leap from 80's VHS to DVD is not anywhere close to the step taken from CD to mp3.
i thought we were leaping from vinyl to cd and the problem was not being able to play the vinyls anymore due to lack of the necessary equipment or the deterioration of the record itself. owning the vinyl : not paying for the cd :: owning the vhs : not paying for the dvd
I still don't think it's the best analogy. DVDs are packed with extras, and even the actual film itself is likely presented in a different format (widescreen) than it is on the VHS. CDs are essentially smaller records you can play in your car. No added bells and whistles that make it a different product. But you make an excellent point in regards to replacing lost and/or damaged goods. EDIT: Lol, f4p, didn't even notice it! Done.
Do you guys think if I just change my shared folder all this will be avoided? I only have like 1300 songs (a lot to some, but probably nowhere near the people they're going after) anyway, but I don't want to screw up my playlists. Also, if the RIAA's primary goal is to slow down file sharing, won't they accomplish this when everyone moves their files from their shared folder? I mean, sure, sharers avoid getting sued, but the RIAA still gets what they want, don't they?
true enough. any chance you could edit the "embarrasment" emoticon out of my quote in your post? i didn't realize : followed by an "o" with no space in between would cause that. not a big deal, but it's the icon i hate the most and i feel like breaking my computer when i see it. plus i look stupid having an icon for my o. edit: gracias. well i guess if every single person did this on say kazaa then we wouldn't have anything left to share on kazaa. but if they're only going after the very biggest that might not encourage enough people to do it. i'm not moving my 200+ songs off of kazaa. now if my entire library of about 2200+ songs was all on kazaa i might think a little differently (though i would still be far from the very biggest they go after).
What ever happened to that CD settlement where you had to file a claim and you were supposed to get money back? I filed and havent heard a thing from them.
I started using kaaza last fall, and since that time I have attended more than 20 way-overpriced concerts in the Houston area. Sorta like when I was in college. The last 5 years I had seen maybe 12-15 concerts. Thats due to my exposure to bands that the radio wont play unless they have a hit.... No way I would have seen Coldplay, White Stripes, Tenacious D, Ben Harper, Robert Randolph, G-Love, or Moe if I had just listened to local radio. (Yeah Coldplay is everywhere but when their tickets went on sale last Nov they only had that one song on the radio)
I have about 1200 songs, and haven't moved any yet. The people who are targeted are those who are using their 60-80 GB HDDs as virtual file-sharing servers on Kazaa. I haven't moved any files yet, because I want to keep my "Supreme Being" status.
For all you Kaaza folks- You might want to check what processes are running in your background. Kaaza has been known to help cover the costs by allowing a spyware program to piggy-back on it's installs. The program not only eats up memory but it monitors the web pages you visit, popping up annoying ads and sending your stats back to whenu.com's home base. If you see a SAVE.EXE running in the background (ctrl/alt/del - task manager - processes) - I'd not only suggest killing it (end task), but running the uninstall under "Program Files\Save\Saveuninst.exe" Just an fyi.
you bring up a semi-valid point there. It doesnt really apply to me since I will have already ripped my VHS tapes to DVD for safekeeping. but if in 20 years there is a spot on the internet where you can download movies and you see one that you own on VHS, and you cant play it anymore...then I think yes...you should not feel guilty of downloading the movie for burning to DVD. with this one disclaimer... you should not ever sell copies of the said movie.
On whether downloading music for free rather than buying a CD is stealing, I've heard this argument. See what you guys think: We never buy music. We buy the medium where music is recorded. Think about this. Back in the days of LP, when one of your vinyls got scratched up, did you go to the store and say, "Hey, I paid for the music, so please give me a new record"? Or when your cassette tape got worn out, did you go to the store and say, "Give me a new tape with the songs that I already paid for"? No, buy a new record. Buy a new tape. So they didn't really sell you the music. They sold you the medium. Now, isn't the music industry hypocritical when they turn around and say people who are not paying for the music in the medium the industry did not produce as stealing music? The industry should concentrate on finding ways to sell digital media rather than whining about people stealing. -------------------------- What do you think?
2 sides to the coin. You are buying both the intellectual property and the medium, not one or the other.
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