Mueller: Letter to Barr says Summary, “Failed to Capture Context, Nature & Substance” of Report

Barr just used his “expert legal opinion” to form the narrative.

 

So Trump needed someone to tell him not to trust foreign influences?

 

All of those issues where not raised by leading candidates, Biden has not raised any of them.

I doubt all of those issues have been raised by no more than 5 candidates and none of them have double digit poll numbers.

The point is that republicans are pushing those extreme topics when there is no proof that they will be included in the Democratic platform.

I understand your paranoia but I don't think it's as bad as that, if it was I would right there with you.

i also think that you are underestimating the appetite that some have for some of those topics in the Midwest.

 

Bernie Sanders at different times has...... called for felons to vote, Green Deal, abolish ICE, free college and Medicare for all....... that is one single candidate, and he is a leading democratic candidate.

A number of other democratic candidates have embraced the same issues.... some even calling for open borders and reparations.

Joe Biden, who is already being attacked by his own party and has yet to articulate a position on most issues.

 

You said candidates not a candidate and even Bernie has not advocated for all of those topics.

And don't know if you noticed Berny has been dropping in the polls.

As for Biden you kind of made my point for me, how can he be advocating when he has yet to articulate his platform.

Do you really think Biden is going to advocate for all of those?

 

He better not. The Republic hasn't fallen into the abyss under Trump so I think Democrats need to be very realistic about nominating someone that America wants to elect and not rely on them just hating Trump.

 

Forgiving college loans includes future loans. It's not that difficult.

 

He needed someone to point out exactly was suspected of being a foreign agent in his campaign to minimize potential damage.

 

i agree and I am positive they will just like they did across America in the 2018 election.

 

You don't get it.

No single candidate is going to advocate for all of those policies, although Sanders certainly has for a lot of them.

I don't think Biden will advocate for much of anything, I don't think that he is a meat and potato type politician. He is likely going to try and steer towards the middle and we will see if the people that support Sanders and Harris and Pete and Beto follow suit. Let's see how he handles having wrote the crime bill (an extremely successful piece of legislation) that the left has vilified. Let's see how he handles Anita Hill, and lets see how he handles his past comments of reparations.

The extremists in the democratic party have been emboldened and I don't think they are going to be willing to compromise. Do you really think 90% of Sanders voters will vote for Biden? Do you really think that AOC suppporters are going to be okay with Joe in the middle? Do you think middle America is going to like it when there is extreme pressure on Biden to nominate an black woman for VP based on identity politics?

I want to make it clear, Trump has a huge amount of issues too.......... but for some reason, many liberals seem to think that it is just inevitable that all rational people will not vote for Trump.... and I am telling you, that a lot of people in the middle will hold their nose and vote for Trump if the economy is good and if the democrats stray too far and push identity politics in their own party.

Do you think someone like AOC would compromise and win the White House or stand on principle and lose this election.... but possibly win on her own terms later?

"Socialist Democrat", "Felons voting", "Green New Deal", "Reparations" and "Loan forgiveness" are not got the type of issues that are going to win you Ohio or Pennsylvania or Florida. Those issues win you votes in areas and states where the democrats already are going to win.

 

KAMALA HARRIS GUTS BARR LIKE A FISH,
LEAVES HIM FLOPPING ON THE DECK ​

she masterfully / calmly surgically identified / exposed Barr's lies;
It took just eight minutes for Harris to destroy the attorney general’s “no obstruction” story.


“In reaching your conclusion, did you personally review all of the underlying evidence?”

Again, one would have expected the answer to be Of course, I did! What kind of cockamamie question is that? but, somehow, it wasn’t! “No,” Barr told the former prosecutor.
“We accepted the statements in the report as factual record, we did not go underneath it to see whether or not they were accurate.”
What about departed Deputy A.G. Rod Rosenstein, Harris wondered. How ‘bout that guy? Did he “review the underlying evidence . . . that supports the conclusions in the report?” Again, the answer was no.​

“Did anyone in your executive office review the evidence supporting the report,” Harris asked,

as Cory Booker struggled to conceal his smile watching the senator from California nail Barr to the wall. “No,” Barr answered. “Yet you represented to the America public that the evidence was not ‘sufficient to support an obstruction of justice offense?’” Harris pressed.
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these are just 2 eg, dick on the link below to get more eg.

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https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/05/kamala-harris-william-barr

 

What?

That's not what forgiving means and still does increase college graduates.

Do you think that everyone who gets a college loan graduates?

Evidently it is that hard.

For you.

 

When did this become a discussion of visa's? I was simply laying out one of the consequences of free college another poster here advocated.

Define "bad".

I'm not necessarily arguing anything. I am simply stating what one of the consequences of free tuition is. A glut of people with the same degrees that will drive down the demand (and therefore pay) for those people. In other words, if the goal is to get these specific folks out of poverty, how does giving someone a potentially worthless degree solve that?

 

Let's be honest.

Trump didn't give a ****.

Trump wanted to be elected and he would do anything it takes to get elected.

No one is going to argue that Trump is some upstanding man with integrity, he isn't....... he is going to win based on his policy success and the economy.

You don't have to like or trust someone to vote for them, especially in these very polarizing times.

 

Peleincubus responded to my initial post of Free College for all. You're ignorant of the conversation we were having.

 

What I am attempting to do is point out what actors in the Obama administration didn't do and wondering how that helped "secure national security".

Trump and the folks around him are irrelevant with regards to the Obama administration's actions.

 

Did I miss something?

Has AOC been anything g but A team player?

Like I said those topics are extreme and nobody is advocating for all of them let alone anybody that has a chance of winning the nomination.

I understand that people will hold there nose and vote for Trump of democrats go to the extreme left but that is not happening and IMO it will not.



you are projecting you own fears on the Democratic party as a whole and using worst case as the thesis for your argument.

i don't think that Felons voting and loan forgiveness are the turn offs that you think and I definitely don't see people voting for Trump because of them.think

it's your opinion that extremist are going to hold the party hostage and that AOC is going to lead the charge I vehemently disagree.I

Lastly I think more people will just not vote instead of holding there nose and vote again for Trump we will see.

 

So tell us again how having a student loan means more college graduates.

 

If Mueller had meant for obstruction charges to be filed, they would have recommended that. He didn't.

If you want to be upset with someone, seems to me you should start there.

 

FREE COLLEGE means more college graduates. Are you always this obtuse?