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Mr Mean is Useless

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Fegwu, Mar 19, 2003.

  1. LiTtLeY1521

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    lol.......our team isn't as wealthy as theirs......

    :(

    Anyways....Francis said that the coaches did good. He just said that the players....including him....didn't execute.
     
  2. Tango

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    Whining about the guards offensive play in the last game is just plain ignoring the facts.

    Give some credit to the Sonics, they shutdown our low-post game. That's why Yao nor MoT could do anything on the low-block. That's why Yao didn't get more touches.

    Let me remind folks that haven't been around the Rockets very long that years past that is exactly why the Sonics had the Rockets number year after year. It was fortunate for the Rockets during their championship runs to not face the Sonics in the playoffs because they knew how to beat Houston which was the swarm Olajuwon and dare us to beat them from the outside. Infact the Sonics knocked us out of the play-offs once the Sonics figured out how to get past the 1st round. The Rockets didn't find an answer for the Sonics double and triple teams until we brought on Barkley.
     
  3. daoshi

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    You are r****ded to make a statement like this. I have been a couple of pro athlets parties, one of them was in LA hosted by Magic Johnson. I have a friend who was a former NBA player. Let me tell you, all Pro athletes are selfish, arrogant SOBs. It's laughable to even image that they care more about their team than their own stats. If you ever know any pro athlet personally, you'll know what I'm talking about.
     
  4. ragingFire

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    This Seattle team is quite different from the team that used to whip us and Hakeem in year past.
    Back then, they had Payton, Mc Millian harrassing our guards into submission. Kenny Smith were actually scared bringing up the ball against GP! They also doubled, tripled team Hakeem and dared our guards to beat them, which we didn't.
    We lost to the old Sonics because of their defense, we lost to this new Seattle's team last night because of our defense!
     
  5. Fegwu

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    Mind you guys - Larry "Mean" Smith and Jim B coach our summer league teams almost every year. At least that one is equal or greater than NBDL, CBA or NCAA D1 gigs (albeit on a small scale). Ahhhh......no wonder Eddy Griffin never developed much in the off-season. We should be thanking our God that Yao Ming was not here for the summer league - they would have definitely r****ded his development (see Eddy, Bryce Drew, Oscar etc.).
     
  6. Jebus

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    not to mention the fact that he was calling someone r****ded while consistently mis-spelling the word 'guard'. once is a typo, four times in a row (in bold, no less) is something else.
     
  7. heypartner

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    A year or two, with no experience coaching or playing? Did you just really say that?

    This is the epitome of disrespect to the professionalism of the NBA players, coaches, scouts, general managers, etc. I knew people thought that, but I never really figured people actually believe they could be a professional coach with no experience enough to say it publicly.

    You know JayZ, the moment you took that job and made one mistake, you'd be called a f!cking moron by someone here on this bbs. Unless of course, your candidacy was based on coaching the rox by majority rule.

    <blockquote><hr>
    Breaking news. Rudy to retire. Rockets Hire JayZ from the CC.net BBS, after Clutch runs a poll where JayZ beats Mr Mean 95% to 5%.

    From Fegwu on the bbs: "It's about time we let cc.net run this team. We need someone to follow the pulse of the fans. We can't do any worse than Mr Mean and Rudy."

    From Coach JayZ: "I nust think Clutch for running the poll, and Les for finally listening to us smart fans with high IQ, despite never playing basketball. I'm just a voice as common as any other smart person. The game is pretty simple; I'll catch on pretty fast, and I have Dreamcaster to practice with. I also intend to make Clutch an assistant coach, so he can run polls for me with the fans. With a faster server, we'll be able to get polls out and answered during a timeout. Our fan approval rating will soar, as we make this team a democracy based on what all us rabid fans think...and I'll filter out all the dumb voices."<hr></blockquote>
    lol

    Yeah, give me one year and I could be a soccer coach for a World Cup team, despite never playing, because you know, there's not really much coaching since the clock never stops. Or maybe a baseball coach, because you know MLB is all about subbing pitchers and doing line up cards...that's pretty straight forward.
     
  8. sun12

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    I do not think Seattle did anything tremendously different from other teams. If you look at Yao's game statistics for the past month or two, he seldom scores less than 10 points/game. I think you have to leave Yao in for 35 minutes for the game when he has no foul trouble. Last night he had 29 minutes.

    Another thing I noticed is that Yao seems to adapt to the game situation quite slowly. Everytime you put him in, he won't do much for the first couple of minutes, then he will start to do something. Therefore Yao should get some 7-8 minutes at least in every quarter.

    By the way, Seattle is a shooting team. Everybody on that team can shoot. If Rox wants to win without dumping the ball inside. Good luck!
     
  9. Easy

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    Is that an allegory of some sort?
     
  10. Fegwu

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    Mr Lex Alexanda, please kindly place a call to the following coaches/player for temporary coaching help "should in case" Rudy decides to take the rest of the season off'

    1. Larry Bird
    2. Bob Hill
    3. Van Chancelor
    4. Glen Rice
    5. Dave Cowen (if he is not under contract).

    The Czar and his other partner at TNT are still under contract hence I excluded them from the above. Those gentlemen cannot not do worse than Larry. Heck JayZ750 will not do worse than Larry Smith.
     
  11. Easy

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    Yep. If you look at the numbers, we had decent shooting percentage (not good for 3-pointers, but good overall). The problems are:

    1. Too many turnovers
    2. Getting out-rebounded by a perimeter team
    3. Bad defense (they shot over 50%)

    All these indicate the lack of focused effort on the players' part. I don't know. Maybe they got disheartened by the absence of Rudy. I do think we should give Larry Smith some slack. He didn't do a good job. But he's as inexperienced as the players in terms of doing on-court decision-making.
     
  12. Tango

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    ragingfire

    I agree with you. I believe that was the key. Just wanted to make a point as to the silliness of folks griping about the guards offensive play as being selfish last night.

    Seattle defensively shutdown our inside game. The outside game for us was really stinking (maybe a reasonable point from a coaching / subtitution standpoint to consider to fix) both from mid-range jumpers and 3-ptrs. So we went to our 3rd option of having the guards try to break the defense down. Even with that we had a chance to stay in the game.

    Where we blew it was defensively. As someone else mentioned in a different thread the Rockets seem to have a hard time guarding offenses that slash from the wings and kickout. Was that a coaching issue or player execution? I think this is debatable. But to put the blame on selfish play of the guards is ignoring the facts.
     
  13. ima_drummer2k

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    Now that he's single, Les is a little preoccupied...CRUSIING CHICKS. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

    Calvin, put down those cookies, take off that neon suit, and grab a clipboard!
     
  14. basso

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    didn't UH have a Mr. Mean back in the Phi Slamma Jamma days? Larry "Mr. Mean" Michaux? maybe what the rockets need is alvin "drop the dime on the big swahili" franklin...;)
     
  15. Tango

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    sun12:

    The difference was the Sonics executed their defense better than others and kept Yao from being able to do anything on the inside. And then at the times when Yao was able to dump off to an open man (which was far fewer than usual because of the swarming defense) we couldn't make our shots.

    I don't think giving Yao more touches last night or more minutes was the issue. The Sonics were clearly disrupting his offense as well as his ability to pass out of the low block. He was even missing his open mid-range J's.
     
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    Under Rudy, Yao does not get benched then let into the game for 2 minutes, then benched again...IN THE FOURTH QUARTER. All the while not getting any touches or shot attempts for the 2 minutes he was in the game.
     
  17. rrj_gamz

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    It's only his first game, let's hope it's better tonight...

    LS needs to be the ball and take no crap from anyone...

    We need a leader...:mad:
     
  18. Fegwu

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    Tango
    My brother-in-Rox, that excuse is simply a BAIL OUT. In sports when you are doing well you have to continously stick to the PRINCIPLE of what helps you do well - ranging from defensive intensity, ball movemnet, establishing the post no-matter-what, etc. We fail miserable on all those counts including simple substituting blue print Rudy worked soooo had to get to this point.

    There is not justification on the temporary earth just should justify our guards reverting to the dumb ISOs and I-can-take-you-on myopic mentality. Your most important player, Yao, has no bussiness riding the pine when you need him the most. Mobley HAS NO RIGHT to wave off MoT and Yao in the post - NEVER.

    If we lost playing the kind of basketball that brought us this far (since the last 5 games) then this thread would not have come into existence but.............
     
  19. Tango

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    It's no bail out. It's what happened. We kept trying to pound it in and it wasn't working. It wasn't working with Yao and it wasn't working with MoT. Note just the turnovers between Yao and MoT last night - 4 and 2. Watching the game and how these occured was an indication of the Sonics defense against the inside-out gameplan. And in the rare moment we were able to get the ball out to someone we couldn't hit our shots. Yao Ming is a great player but he's not superhuman. The Sonics shutdown our inside game plain and simple.

    Certainly we could have kept trying to pound it in but I contend we would have ended up with worse results. We've seen it in the past with the Rockets. Nate McMillan is the headcoach of the Sonics. I don't think he's forgotten how to play Rudy's inside-out offense and certainly prepared his team well for it. The guards kept us in the game because we didn't have another option that was working.

    What killed us was not the offense but the defense.
     
  20. JayZ750

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    Hey you don't got to watch if I get the job, but I still stand by my original statement. Not only do I think I could do as good a job, I would do it much cheaper. But tell another funny hypothetical. They had me on the floor laughing :rolleyes:
     

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