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[Movie] World Trade Center

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by JunkyardDwg, May 15, 2006.

  1. JumpMan

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    I saw United 93 so I'll see this one, from the preview it's obviously not a JFK type movie so everyone else who like United 93 should see it too.
     
  2. cson

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    By that logic, if you've seen any WWII movie you owe my family $6.50.
     
  3. rrj_gamz

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    IMO, this is too soon to have a movie based on actual events...It's different from let's say, "Law and Order, ripped from the headline" type of an event...This is a black mark in American History where a lot of innocent people died for no reason, not a war story of guys fighting in combat, overcoming obstacles to become heroes...

    For example, "Munich" didn't come out in 1975, or "Toro Toro Toro" or "Pearl Harbor" didn't come out in 1945, soon after these tragic events...

    I didn't see united, and definitely won't see this...
     
  4. Buck Turgidson

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    The biography of Eduardo Carochio? Great flick.
     
  5. mateo

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    I respect your opinion, and your choice to not spend your hard-earned dollars on this movie. But I dont think there is a "too soon" to make a movie based on actual events...I think these heroes deserve to have their stories told while they still live.

    I think you mean "black day in history." "Black mark" would be the Abu Ghraib or My Lai or some other scandal.
     
  6. Coach AI

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    It amazes me that people use the 'they are just trying to make money' excuse for passing up films on 9/11. Every one of us alive contributed to someone making money off that day. Every little american flag hanging from our car, every news program or tv special, every tribute magazine, all of it; and that's just the start. Hell, we have spent the last few years in a war that used that tragedy (how - well that depends on who you ask) to justify it.

    Film, if done right, can be an art form like anything else. I can understand family members of victims not able to watch. Otherwise, if the movie is done respectfully and with the intention of actual tribute, I fully support it.
     
  7. JunkyardDwg

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    EXACTLY. And from all accounts both of these films were done right. Plus some people say five years isn't enough time; movies about Pearl Harbor, WWII, Vietnam didn't appear right away. Well the first Pearl Harbor movie came out 1 year after the event, The Green Berets starring John Wayne debuted while the Vietnam war was still happening and you could probably find a half dozen films about WWII that were produced during or shortly after it ended. The five years Hollywood waited to tell these stories is actually showing patience.

    What does it say when the victim's families support the work. If it's ok for someone who was directly affected how can it not be someone whose not. I guess it says that there are no right or wrong answers concerning this issue, because it is a personal one each individual must figure out for themselves.

    And I took a look at the English trailer, and it choked me up. This is something I really have to see, in an honoring their memory by understanding their story type of way.
     
  8. fba34

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    i just came back from watching united 93 and i love how they showed the whole even as a whole. no one played the main character, no 'character building' plots, no over-the-top dramatics. just the whole thing as they knew it.

    this movie seems to be concentrating on nicholas cage and his buddy's story. i'm not liking it so far. i'm sure it wont be as bad as ben affleck and josh hartnett in pearl harbour, but it seems to be that way from the trailer.
    i'll probably watch it.
     
  9. Aceshigh7

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    I just watched this trailer and it doesn't look very good to me. The story of 9-11 is so huge, that it's kind of silly to make a movie like this and focus on these individual characters. Why should the movie-going public care about these few characters when so many people died?

    This just doesn't seem like the kind of event that you can base a movie on, unless it's a documentary.

    Plus, Nicolas Cage's NY accent is horrible.
     
  10. mateo

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    Its not the "Story of 911"

    Its the story of the last two rescue workers saved from the WTC.
     
  11. JunkyardDwg

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    If you try and center the movie on all the victims, the movie will completely lose it's focus. United 93 didn't have to focus on just one ore two key characters because the story was already confined to a single passenger jet (that wasn't at full capacity). But you look at other tragedy movies, and they follow the same formula (ex. Titanic).
     
  12. Party Pizza

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    I saw United 93 by myself. It was done really well. I don't think any of the people who died on (9/11) would give a **** about the movies made. Think about the people who died. THEY DONT CARE!!!!! I am so sorry for the family members who lost loved ones, but there is no way these stories cannot be shown/told on film.
     
  13. RocketMan Tex

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    I'm waiting for the Da 9-11 Code movie to come out, personally.....
     
  14. GRENDEL

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    I saw United 93 and thought it was excellent, they really just captured that moment time, more of a documentary film to it.

    I'm curious about Stone's movie and will watch it, I think the movie looks intresting thus far.
     
  15. F.D. Khan

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    I just hope its not another one of Oliver Stone's movies with an
    agenda or a conspiracy theory.

    It seemed that 50% of Alexander revolved around him being gay.
    Its as if he has to constantly throw it in our faces because he thinks
    we don't get the subtlety.

    He hasn't made a good movie since Wall Street, and even that was
    full of stereotypes and lots of inaccuracies.
     
  16. RocketMan Tex

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    I disagree.

    Stone hasn't made a good movie since "Platoon".

    Everything he has made since then has been complete bombastic crapola.
     
  17. JeeberD

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    Pretty much sums up my feelings...
     
  18. Faos

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    Nothing will compare to the documentary done by the foreign crew that just so happened to be in NYC doing a doc on the fire department that day. I remember it airing on CBS a few years ago. They followed the fire department INSIDE the lobby of the WTC. I can still remember hearing the sound of the bodies of those who jumped from the windows hitting the pavement outside. Chilling.
     
  19. rrj_gamz

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    C'mon, what about this...It wasn't Oscar worhty, but very entertaining...

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    Btw, mateo, I did mean black day...
     
  20. Invisible Fan

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    Make'm cheap, hit'em fast, and hit'em hard.
     

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