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[Movie] Underworld Evolution

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by JunkyardDwg, Jan 20, 2006.

  1. mogrod

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    When she drank the blood of Alexander, he tells her she will become the future. So, I assume his blood makes her a super vampire (female Blade). But, like I said, it would have been nice to see a change in her appearance (even just a little) to see that she has changed. Because of that, I can see many getting confused as to why she is stronger, faster and invincible at the end.

    LOL! I was just waiting for the movie to reveal she is pregnant with a super, hybrid, mutant vampire/lycan baby at some point.
     
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    That's something I didn't even think of and does make sense. But then how would Alexander and Seline have known that the Lycan's blood awakened Markus? I kinda thought he was a hybrid because him and William were the first offspring of Alexander. Cause remember William was a stronger and more uncontrollable Lycan than the present ones (who couldn't change back to human form).


    Here's something that's on my mind though. In the first one they talked about three elders. We know Markus and Viktor were two of them. But then who was the third. Was it Emilia? But then she wasn't part of that coven. And if Emilia was the other elder then why would Craven's role have existed since he was asked to lead their coven in the elders absence. They don't seem to touch on that at all.
     
  3. mogrod

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    Yea, Emilia is the third. You're right about explaining why Craven was left in charge while it was her turn to be alive. That is strange. Heck, it took me 3 times watching the first movie to figure out that Emilia was the third elder. I finally realized she was coming back to the covern to go back into hybernation. I really liked the movies, but they did leave some confusion about some things.
     
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    This was a great movie... I'm a Kate Beckinsale stalker, well almost... anyway, the move was awesome, I may go see it again.
     
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    My wife did point out something confusing though. At one point, Michael asks if Marcus was a hybrid, and Seline says yes. Then, later on, she says that there has never been a hybrid before Michael. Did we both mis-hear or misunderstood?




    Michael was the first hybrid. Marcus was not until the blood of the lycan spilled into his tomb, but he wasn't revived right away.
    In either case, the history of the hybrid was non-existent until Michael and Marcus were changed.
     
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    I really enjoyed the first Underworld and I look forward to seeing the second one.

    Did they leave the second one open for more Underworld movies?




    According to the 2 books, there is a prequel, detailing the events that happened before the two movies......Victor's daughter and Lucian....... I believe there will be a prequel movie, and another movie to follow the Evolution's story.
    A prequel would be sweet.
     
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    She drank of Alexander's blood, who was the first true immortal, and Father of Markus and William.
     
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    She just had to look at Markus to tell he was a hybrid at that point in the movie.....after all, she'd been a minion of his for centuries. She'd know the differences.

    I believe that Emilia ruled in a different part of the world, but was still an elder vampire. What was it that Victor mentioned in the first movie? Was it one awake, two asleep, or two awake, one asleep? That's how they leapfrogged through time, so that if one perished, there were others set to rule.
     
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    I remember that but what threw me off was that Emilia wasn't part of that particular coven. So when they talked of Kraven's role and the role of the Elders (2 sleep, one awake) I started to think that all three of them were alseep for some reason and that Emilia was just a leader from another Coven. So in that respect, better attention could have been payed to some of these characters backstories.


    And honestly I don't know how much I'd welcome more installments. If they end up doing a prequel and then another sequel, they're really gonna bleed the story dry. Do they really need to make a prequel when everything has been explained through flashbacks already. Could be cool to see, but then again some things are better left untold.
     
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    I saw it it was ok / / action wise .. the story was SUPER WEAK

    [*Potential Spoilers*]

    I did not like the portrayal of the Lycan . . I thought the 1st movie did a better job of showing a level of equality

    this one referred them back to being just animals
    The plot twist in the 1st movie was interesting
    this one seem to justify their enslavement to begin with . . .

    Of the two movies Lucian is by far the best character
    the one with the most depth

    Why was William so out of control . . . yet Markus was not?
    Were Alexander's men human or Vampire or something different?
    Why the hell did Markus, a Prince. . son of Alexander a king, defer to Viktor so much?
    Why did alexander do what he did [and if he was immortal why was he so old looking?]


    BEST EFFECT: Markus's wings and how he used them.

    Rocket River
     
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    This thread is really dissapointing. I came here expecting to see pics of Kate Beckinsale in her skin tight suit or various levels of nudity and nothin! :mad:
     
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    Here you go...
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    As for the movie, I personally enjoyed it more than the first one. I've always thought of the first one as a guilty pleasure and a lot of stuff didn't make sense. This one is kind of the same but still an enjoyable flick.

    The action was enjoyable...I wish they would have totally done away with the Matrix slow mo but oh well.

    I'm glad it did well this weekend, hope with get a part three that goes more into the modern Werewolves vs. Vampires
     
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    The opening CGI was pretty terrible, but overall, the movie was pretty good. Monsters getting their jaw ripped out NEVER gets old.

    ...and I'm sorry, but that Ultraviolet trailer had more cheese in it than the entire state of Wisconsin.
     
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    I liked this one better than the first. The CGI was really nice. Plus it explained so much more of the story. One thing I didnt like was:

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    I thought they had a good villain in Kraven. They killed him off to easily and too early. Had he hung around through this one he would have been a good angle for a #3.
     
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    That is what I said to my brother as we were walking out of the theater.
     
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    Wow... I can't believe I'm in the minority here that thinks this movie didn't live up to its potential.

    And Kraven would have been a great character, if the actor that played him didn't SUCK so bad. He was awful in the first movie..most of his lines overblown.
     
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    Can't agree more with this part...At least Silent Hill looks somewhat promising. I just got back from the 1:30 showing, and the first thing to mind is...Man, She (Kate) is so Hot!...2nd is I was impressed! I loved the storyline. I loved the blood and gore. I loved the action and all the extra stuff.

    Great fun! ... :)
     
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    I agree with you on the story, although I thought it was good, but not what I expected.
    As for Markus, he was the first of the Vampires, but Viktor was the ruler of the land there, their king. I thought it odd at first too, but it was revealed when Viktor was dying as a mortal, that he was their King, odd as it may be.
    I feel that Markus was walking the path of Alexander at first, not wishing to be detrimental to the human race, so he accepted Viktor as his "lord".

    The first movie, portrays Viktor as the oldest and strongest of the Vampires, which isn't true, but it's what was believed by the coven, if I'm not mistaken, due to Viktors lies, but I don't see why it would matter to them...
    It threw me off at first, because in the very beginning of the sequel, it mentions Markus as the first vampire....

    Alexander is strange, how does one become an immortal? Was he born that way? He is old looking.... :confused:
     
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    Well, for my opinion of the movie, I liked it. However, the story didn't play out at all like I envisioned it would. I THOUGHT that the mansion vampires, and the Lycan, and Celin along with Michael, would all be at war with each other, or some type of alliance would form, in one way or another. I figured Markus would have to win acceptance as a hybrid, to rule either the vamps, lycans, both, etc.. nope.
    It turns out that Markus is pissed about the lies and deceptions in the mansion, and there ain't nothing nobody there can do about it. After a bit into the movie, I thought that Markus would join up with Celine, but nope. There is no battle among the clans, it's all about Markus and his brother.
    I'm left believing that Markus wiped out all the vampires at the mansion, the original lycan were no-shows, so what's left? So many unanswered questions. Surely there are other covens elsewhere, like where Emilia came from??? The lycan from the first movie just retreated into the sewers?

    It could have been better, but I liked it nonetheless. It just wasn't at all what I expected, story-wise.
     
  20. JunkyardDwg

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    Pretty much how I thought the story would play out, except it didn't even dawn on me that Markus would turn into a hybrid. But yeah I thought the war would continue (it didn't) and that Markus would seek bloody vengeance but eventually ally with Seline (after learning the truth). I also thought the whole angle of Markus finding the infortmation he needed by sucking the blood of his victims was a little too easy and played out. I know that's how it works. But the first movie made a point of acknowledging the delicacies of bringing back the elders from hibernation, and if not done right and by an experienced person, it could severly screw the process up. That's why Viktor saw only bits and pieces (in a tangled mess) from Seline's memories. So you're telling me then that a brutally murdered Lykan would somehow put everything into coherence for Markus? And at that, nothing was said in the first movie about seeing memories of EVERYONE the vampires drank blood from. If that was the case, I would have to believe the vampires would go literally nuts from the jumbled mess of memories they receive from all the blood they drink. Just doesn't make sense, even if Markus has special powers since he was the first.
     

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