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[Movie] PROMETHEUS

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Cowboy_Bebop, Nov 26, 2011.

  1. ChrisBosh

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    Too much of the movie did not make sense and I doubt they will ever explain most of it. It had the ingredients of being an epic movie. I did enjoy the movie and it did have me talking after, but it was mostly due to confusion. Just seemed like I missed parts of the movie. I'd give it a 6.5/10.
     
  2. Rox11

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    Review
    Saw the movie again. Great decision honestly because watching it with a lot of the answers explains most of the things we viewed as wrong/mistakes.
    I enjoyed it more this time because i could focus in on main points i missed on and connected more dots.

    A lot of the issues that were complained about such as the expandable crew; i realized were only there to transition the movie forward. If the two lost geologist had stayed in there scared state then they would never get the movie rolling.

    Now some observations i made...
    Loved David the first time around, but watching him knowing his motives and how he was bounds and shoulders ahead of everybody else makes him really shine through more.
    Like when he was talking to Charlie, he didn't infect him just because he was arrogant but because he wanted to see what they were facing. Charlies attitude helped in David making that decision a bit but when he asks him "what would you do to get your answers" Charlie says "anything and everything" so in infecting him he became an experiment.

    Also I don't believe enough attention was given to the Captain, he was very smart and almost knew more then the scientists themselves.
    Like when he says this isn't the engineers planet, its a military zone for them to experiment on. That explains the numerous ships.

    Also it was self explanatory that he and Vickers did it because it was meant to be a distraction for the Captain to get away from the feed of the two geologists when they were killed. If he did not go with her he would have seen the whole feed.

    Also about the one infected geologist who came back to the ship, i think there was nothing behind him but just to build up suspense.

    The points about religion were endless. Christmas, the cross, who created us.

    That's it for now, if anything else comes to mind ill add later. But i love this movie for some reason. Just the feel behind it is awesome.
     
  3. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    Rox11 - about your comments on the captain, I get the feeling a lot of his scenes were cut. He was seemingly jumping to conclusions out of nowhere. Hopefully it's fleshed out in the director's cut.
     
  4. Shroopy2

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    Saw it yesterday

    Before watching the movie, I think having familiarity and refreshers with the Alien story and Blade Runner/replicant theme can enhance the viewing. On most movies its okay having blind viewings going in with no expectations. To me Prometheus is less like that, but thats my opinion.

    The good:
    -- A minor good: Past the visual effects, for some reason I like how the pacing of the plot and the dialogue didnt get too garbled and trying to sound too over-intellectual.
    -- Solid performance of David by Michael Fassbender

    The not so good:
    -- The plain spoken words didnt mean the actual PLOT ITSELF was easy to comprehend. Much confusion and plot holes.
    -- Vickers (Theron) sure had an old father
    -- Very abrupt VOLUNTARY C-SECTION in complete solitude, with no acknowledgement by anyone around her before, during or after.
    -- And older actor besides Guy Pearce woulda made more sense for the Weyland character, since that character isnt continuing on.
    -- The geologist and scientist guy being the scared guys, then all of a sudden the scientist guy has no fear of an alien slug sucker and wants to pet it like its a little puppy?

    Verdict:
    -- Good movie, not great. Didnt live up to the hype. Still interesting movie probably for those who usually don't dabble in the existential origins of life theme.
    7/10 without Aliens knowlege
    8.1/10 with

    Thats all from me for now. It can have a nice sequel. Plenty things that can still be tied together.
     
  5. Cowboy_Bebop

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  6. Torn n Frayed

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    I loved the small details in the film, like David's finger-print having a Wehlan logo on it! It's in the scene where he's looking at the black goo up close on his finger, the devil is in the details..
     
  7. Ziggy

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    Hypersleep... Ripley is older than her dead daughter.
     
  8. Rox11

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    Sorry to bumb again, but this should more then explain everything that happened in the movie. I watched it twice and have made the exact same conclusions.
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  9. Surfguy

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    I saw it last night and I liked it (9/10). Obviously, it got everyone thinking and was a much deeper film in meaning than all the other Alien films combined. But, I did miss the aliens over the worm and octopus aliens, i.e. I wish the aliens were better cause they weren't scary and seemed kind of hokey.

    what was the surviving female supposed to eat when her and David went looking for the engineers' home world? Black goo? lol I suppose she went back to the escape capsule to get rations before the alien burst out of that one alien dude who got face hugged.
     
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    Hmm. I didn't realize the zombie guy was actually the mohawk dude. I thought he was the guy that got torched which didn't really make sense.
     
  11. Fyreball

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    She took a bunch of supplies with her from Vickers' escape pod right before the Engineer came to kill her. I'm assuming there was enough food there for her to survive for a little while.
     
  12. HPD

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    when is the next installment....i liked this film now wanting to see the next chapter to connect the stories..
     
  13. Shroopy2

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    I don't think he was the only one to do that, really.

    Super spoiler
    Even the ending. Other than the DNA match, the mission was a complete epic disaster. Shaw found out they were all working under false pretense. She gave up hope in everything, and all it took was a little sweet talk from David to get her back into wide-eyed galaxy wanderer again, based on FAITH ?

    But Shaw needed to get back out in space to make sequels happen and stuff.
     
  14. Shroopy2

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    Answer to spoiler
    As someone mentioned, I thought I saw her carrying some kind of supplies with her before she ventured off on her own. Also its possible that there's a grounded escape capsule with stuff in it still left to rummage through. And it doesnt have to be that she went from David right into the last ship. Can assume some time lapse there to close that plothole. She coulda went on a little "oops, almost forgot" errand run before takeoff.

    I dont quite agree. Yes some of the execution was suspect, and outlandish at times. But the premise of the movie was good overall, enough there for a decent followup.
     
  15. Raven

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    Just curious, is this movie as scarey as Alien or as intense as Aliens?
     
  16. Surfguy

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    Not even close. It really wasn't that type of film. That's the disappointing aspect of it. The sequel to this has to be better imo but only if they bring the aliens back in it. I went in hoping for one thing and got something else...is the way I would sum it up. It's still a good film on its own imo but was not scary at all and failed to create the desperate/scary/wicked environment of "Alien" or the intense action/battles/explosiveness of "Aliens". I would say Ridley failed to create an atmosphere in this film that kept the audience on the edge of their seat. It had some alien things and it had action. It also had undeveloped characters we didn't care about (not like we really cared about any of them) and 3/4s of them we never even met in the film but were extras/background fodder. This was more of a film to make you think as much or as little as you want during and after. It did leave me wanting more. It did have very nice visuals and sets but that alone is only visual candy. I didn't really care for how automated everything seemed to be...as if the technology surpassed that of "Alien" even though didn't this occur many years before "Alien"....2089 was it? Stuff basically ran itself and therefore made the humans almost worthless. It might as well have been eight Davids in the film doing all of the stuff the other characters did or even just one David doing it all (which is what it seemed like anyway). And, the idea that David was this advanced Robot that was on par or better than Bishop was a joke given the year. But, I guess we are supposed to disavow how more technologically superior everything was in this film because movie-making technology is much better now than it was when "Alien" was made. I think it would have been better if they acknowledged that and limited where they were technology-wise in the film. If they had all that technology in 2089, then...boy...the human race is failing to keep pace by a long shot in reality. Did I say this film was 9/10? Hmm...more like 6/10. I just seemingly ripped it to shreds. lol
     
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    As for the tech, the assumption is that this is a top of the line ship, maybe even a protype since it had Vickers and
    Weyland himself
    . You can see some similarities between the Prometheus and the Nostromo lander they used in Alien.

    You also have to keep in mind that the Nostromo was a low class barge so it’s going to have more rudimentary technology.

    As for David, again he’s not a run of the mill android. He’s top of the line and probably a prototype; more advanced that the other standard issue Davids on the market if they are mass produced at that time in the film.
     
  18. bullardfan

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    It was okay
     
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    What sucks is if Ridley is moving on to a Blade Runner sequel...when the hell is he supposed to make a sequel to this? The dude isn't getting any younger. Was there even talk of a sequel to this? I know one seems possible but that doesn't mean there will be one. Has Ridley said there will be one?
     

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