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[Movie] James Cameron - AVATAR

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  1. thelasik

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    "I want that purple stuff."

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    A little late, but here are my thoughts on the movie.

    Story was solid, though not breathtaking nor that clever. Everything almost became too convenient, like the giant bullet-proof rhinos that were introduced at the start, I have a feeling that JC was like "hey, we need to find a way to stop these giant robots, let's have rhinos that are bulletproof!" so he added them into the movie. Other parts I felt the same way.

    However, I did feel emotionally attached to the characters, maybe the love story was a little cheesy and it wasn't all that surprising, but it worked and I wanted it to succeed.

    Overall, great film, I plan on watching this in IMAX 3D if I can.
     
  4. Rocketman95

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    isn't that how all movies are made?
     
  5. RocketRaccoon

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    I saw it just this week and was amazed.

    First, it was my first 3-d movie experience. I thought it was going to be hokey, juvenile, but dang, that was the coolest thing I've ever seen.

    Second, the effects. (don't believe I need to say anything here)

    Third, story line/characters. I was emotionally attached to the characters. Wished there was more separation between what the "men with guns" are and what they were; mercs vs soldiers.

    And lastly, scenes from the movie kept creeping into my consciousness all day long the next day without me having to think about the movie. That is a HUGE plus in how I rate movies.

    I'd give this a 10 out of 10, but the imbalance of "good guys" vs bad guys of the humans is annoying as hell, and we would NEVER, EVER eradicate indigenous people off a planet...one eradicated tribe is all our souls can handle.
     
  6. TheRealist137

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    I don't know, but I never really noticed it DURING the movie like I did with this one. Everything just seemed way too convenient for a fairy tale ending like Avatar was.
     
  7. AstroRocket

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    Box office update (I love this stuff): Avatar is now sitting at $1.3 billion worldwide and at this pace, will definitely become thie highest grossing all time. Made $49 mil domestic in this, its 4th, weekend. $430 mil overall domestic. Passed Transformers 2 for No 1 movie of 2009. Number 7 all time domestic.

    Just keeps on chugging away...
     
  8. ChrisBosh

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    I liked the experience of the movie, it did take me 20-30 minutes to get used to the 3d, didn't feel great watching it but soldiered through. The storyline was obviously very hollywood and nothing new, but I was blown away by the effects, everything looked very real, JC convinced me that his little world is real. The characters did appear not proportional at times, don't know if that was just me, sometimes they were super thin, then at times they looked like monsters. Also the screen was blurry in some scenes. I guess the technology will improve with the interest being developed through this movie. Will definetly watch whatever movie comes out next in 3d........I just hope it isn't a Michael Bay movie.......
     
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    There's only one thing left to do. Win the whole ******* thing! I sure hope this takes out Titanic for domestic BO. Saw both films, and this is the only one that even belongs in the conversation for top box office all time.
     
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    I was OK until the animals came a running. I think, something of that magnitude you need to either before or after see whats happening with the tree and stuff for the animals to do that. It's like they get to the end of the logical script and have a Men in Tights moment:

    "We lost?? Wait a minute. We're not supposed to lose. Let me see the script! A ha!"
     
  11. Rox_fan_here

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    Don't worry guys there is help, your not alone... :p

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/11/avatar.movie.blues/index.html

    Audiences experience 'Avatar' bluesBy Jo Piazza, Special to CNNJanuary 11, 2010 8:06 a.m. EST

    "Avatar" is on track to be the highest grossing film of all time, but some viewers say it leaves them depressed.

    Some fans say James Cameron's "Avatar" may have been too real
    "Avatar Forums" has a topic thread discussing depression over "Pandora being intangible"

    Cameron's movie has pulled in more than $1.4 billion in worldwide box
    (CNN) -- James Cameron's completely immersive spectacle "Avatar" may have been a little too real for some fans who say they have experienced depression and suicidal thoughts after seeing the film because they long to enjoy the beauty of the alien world Pandora.

    On the fan forum site "Avatar Forums," a topic thread entitled "Ways to cope with the depression of the dream of Pandora being intangible," has received more than 1,000 posts from people experiencing depression and fans trying to help them cope. The topic became so popular last month that forum administrator Philippe Baghdassarian had to create a second thread so people could continue to post their confused feelings about the movie.

    "I wasn't depressed myself. In fact the movie made me happy ," Baghdassarian said. "But I can understand why it made people depressed. The movie was so beautiful and it showed something we don't have here on Earth. I think people saw we could be living in a completely different world and that caused them to be depressed."

    A post by a user called Elequin expresses an almost obsessive relationship with the film.

    "That's all I have been doing as of late, searching the Internet for more info about 'Avatar.' I guess that helps. It's so hard I can't force myself to think that it's just a movie, and to get over it, that living like the Na'vi will never happen. I think I need a rebound movie," Elequin posted.

    A user named Mike wrote on the fan Web site "Naviblue" that he contemplated suicide after seeing the movie.

    "Ever since I went to see Avatar I have been depressed. Watching the wonderful world of Pandora and all the Na'vi made me want to be one of them. I can't stop thinking about all the things that happened in the film and all of the tears and shivers I got from it," Mike posted. "I even contemplate suicide thinking that if I do it I will be rebirthed in a world similar to Pandora and the everything is the same as in 'Avatar.' "

    Other fans have expressed feelings of disgust with the human race and disengagement with reality.

    Cameron's movie, which has pulled in more than $1.4 billion in worldwide box office sales and could be on track to be the highest grossing film of all time, is set in the future when the Earth's resources have been pillaged by the human race. A greedy corporation is trying to mine the rare mineral unobtainium from the planet Pandora, which is inhabited by a peace-loving race of 7-foot tall, blue-skinned natives called the Na'vi.

    In their race to mine for Pandora's resources, the humans clash with the Na'vi, leading to casualties on both sides. The world of Pandora is reminiscent of a prehistoric fantasyland, filled with dinosaur-like creatures mixed with the kinds of fauna you may find in the deep reaches of the ocean. Compared with life on Earth, Pandora is a beautiful, glowing utopia.

    Ivar Hill posts to the Avatar forum page under the name Eltu. He wrote about his post-Avatar depression after he first saw the film earlier this month.

    "When I woke up this morning after watching Avatar for the first time yesterday, the world seemed ... gray. It was like my whole life, everything I've done and worked for, lost its meaning," Hill wrote on the forum. "It just seems so ... meaningless. I still don't really see any reason to keep ... doing things at all. I live in a dying world."

    Reached via e-mail in Sweden where he is studying game design, Hill, 17, explained that his feelings of despair made him desperately want to escape reality.

    "One can say my depression was twofold: I was depressed because I really wanted to live in Pandora, which seemed like such a perfect place, but I was also depressed and disgusted with the sight of our world, what we have done to Earth. I so much wanted to escape reality," Hill said.

    Cameron's special effects masterpiece is very lifelike and the 3-D performance capture and CGI effects essentially allow the viewer to enter the alien world of Pandora for the movie's 2½-hour run-time, which only lends to the separation anxiety some individuals experience when they depart the movie theater.

    "Virtual life is not real life and it never will be, but this is the pinnacle of what we can build in a virtual presentation so far," said Dr. Stephan Quentzel, psychiatrist and Medical Director for the Louis Armstrong Center for Music and Medicine at Beth Israel Medical Center in New York. "It has taken the best of our technology to create this virtual world and real life will never be as utopian as it seems onscreen. It makes real life seem more imperfect."

    Fans of the movie may find actor Stephen Lang, who plays the villainous Col. Miles Quaritch in the film, an enemy of the Na'vi people and their sacred ground, an unlikely sympathizer, but Lang says he can understand the connection people are feeling with the movie.

    "Pandora is a pristine world and there is the synergy between all of the creatures of the planet and I think that strikes a deep cord within people that has a wishfulness and a wistfulness to it," Lang said. "James Cameron had the technical resources to go along with this incredibly fertile imagination of his and his dream is built out of the same things that other peoples' dreams are made of."

    The bright side is that for Hill and others like him who became dissatisfied with their own lives and with our imperfect world after enjoying the fictional creation of James Cameron, becoming a part of a community of like-minded people on an online forum has helped them emerge from the darkness.

    "After discussing on the forums for a while now, my depression is beginning to fade away. Having taken a part in many discussions concerning all this has really, really helped me," Hill said. "Before, I had lost the reason to keep on living -- but now it feels like these feelings are gradually being replaced with others."

    Quentzel said creating relationships with others is one of the keys to human happiness and that even if those connections are occurring online they are better than nothing.

    "Obviously there is community building in these forums," Quentzel said. "It may be technologically different from other community building, but it serves the same purpose."

    Within the fan community, suggestions for battling feelings of depression after seeing the movie include things like playing "Avatar" video games or downloading the movie soundtrack in addition to encouraging members to relate to other people outside the virtual realm and to seek out positive and constructive activities.
     
  12. Air Langhi

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    ^^^ I wonder how long those people survive in the jungle..
     
  13. Nero

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    Wow. We need a new tax on movies to help pay these poor depressed people who have been harmed by the movie 'Avatar'.

    On one hand, CNN did a great job finding possibly the biggest bunch of losers on the planet. On the other hand, it shows that anonymous posters on a forum BBS could make an international news story, so there is hope for all of us here at Clutchfans to get our own 15 minutes of fame! Yay!
     
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    I saw it in IMAX 3D this weekend, it was AWESOME!

    It was the 2nd time my gf saw it, she saw it in 2D the first time and said IMAX was so much better.
     
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    I checked out that forum. It's funny how similar the people there are to the Avatar: The Last Airbender fanbase in wanting to live in a writer/animator manufactured world that doesn't actually exit. I guess there's just something about that title...
     
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    I can totally relate being a fan of Houston Rockets I too often find the ideal utopia of tall beings existing in harmony with each other to be intangible...
     
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    I'm not hating on Avatar, I liked the movie, but I don't think it will ever 'take down' Titanic, because once you adjust for inflation, I am pretty sure Avatar is way down on the list. Last I remember someone said that adjusting for inflation, Avatar is 84th. Plus, 3D prices are more expensive than regular prices. I just don't think ticket revenue is that good of an indication of how well a movie performs and how popular it is.
     
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    If you adjusted for inflation then Star Wars would destroy Titanic.
     
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    What is the adjusted inflation per dollar from 1997 to 2009?

    YDS©
     

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