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[Movie] James Cameron - AVATAR

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  1. DaDakota

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    SPOILERS !!!!!!!!!!

    "[ spoiler ] text [ /spoiler ]" remove the spaces inside the brackets.

    DD
     
  2. JuanValdez

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    I've been getting that vibe already and adjusted my expectations accordingly. I'm expecting the storyline to just be a prop to show off the world and the CGI.
     
  3. Outlier

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    yep. anyway, it had some of the best actions scenes i've ever seen in a movie and pandora is amazingly beautiful. that's something i credit this movie for, the oh so beautiful graphics. it never made me sleepy, it kept me wide-eyed. (just annoyed at the story)

    The robot with the knife was INCREDIBLY cheesy.

    sorry about the spoilers in my last post
     
  4. DonkeyMagic

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    Titanic???
     
  5. bloop

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    The story is fine.

    I'm always amazed how people can be easily influenced by the most inane criticism as long as it's repeated by enough mouths in the media. The vast vast majority of movies that do big box office rely on familiar themes because the masses need something easily digestible. In fact in all of Classical literature boils down to a half dozen stories told over and over, same with Shakespeare.

    Think about some Spielberg movies. What was Jurassic Park other than 90 minutes of people running around an island as a prop from monsters to show off dinosaur CGI, or Saving Private Ryan but dudes walking around for 90 minutes capped by a stereotypical heroic action piece at the end.

    Cameron definitely picked the Noble Savage archetype, not to be original but to make the story accessible to everyone from 8 year olds to 80 year olds. Which was a smart decision because with all other new mind blowing stuff going on (3D, motion capture, awesome rendering, science, avatar concept) people would walk out scratching their heads. He took an accessible starting point for the story and added enough layers to make it his own. To me something like Abrams Star Trek is far far more derivative. First you take a 40 year old universe, recycle old characters and add a tiny twist their personalities, borrow elements from Star Treks 2,3,10. Revenge arc:check. Time travel:check. Ice planet:check. Space battle:check. Technology duex ex:check. etc etc. Yet no one is talking about how recycled that movie was because that seed wasn't planted in the public's mind.
     
  6. Rocket River

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    The Noble Savage thing has been done to death and is obvious to everyone 8 to 80.

    Rocket River
     
  7. cdastros

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    I would recommend anyone that wants to see the movie to see it in IMAX 3D. I have to agree that the story was nothing special, but the actors make up for it with a good performance. Zoe Saldana was the best actor in the movie, which is amazing because she is all CG and mo cap.

    The movie doesn't have as much action as you would think, but you really wont care because of how amazing the 3D looks. Overall if you go see it in IMAX 3D then I would give the movie an 8.5 out of 10.
     
  8. SuperStar

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    Do it for your childrens' children!

    The visuasl does make you feel like you're actually in a magical rain forest.
     
  9. Rocket River

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    I will probably take your suggestion.

    QUESTION: Does this mean it is going to SUCK on Cable/HD/Blue Ray?
    :grin:


    Rocket River
     
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    it's not so much that the story is a story we've seen before, it's that it just wasn't really well told or given any sort of different angle. i mean,

    it was too "dances with wolves." and don't make the na'avi pretty much exactly a native american stereotype. all the "earth mother" stuff and respecting nature and the hair (at least for the men) and battling against the white man who greedily wants the land and of course doesn't respect it. at least make them a little meaner or more real or something. it all just followed a formula too much, which may not necessarily be atypical cameron, but none of his others have followed it this closely, so that was disappointing.

    but the visuals, damn they were impressive. the movie could have just been a 2 hour 40 minute guided tour of pandora and i would've enjoyed it. at one point it was like "oh yeah, none of this is real" because you just get so drawn into it.
     
  11. cdastros

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    3D is slated to come to the home theater system within the next couple of years. If you don't watch it in 3D I don't think it would suck, it just will not have that wow factor that IMAX 3D has.
     
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    Did you see this yet DD?

    I saw the afternoon IMAX showing, it was AWESOME!

    the 3d effects were never distracting, it only enhanced the movie.
     
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    awesome day

    saw avatar

    came home and saw the rockets beat the mavs



    avatar was just simply stunning i couldnt get over just how amazing everything was about it. the story was at times predictable but still pretty strong.


    great movie
     
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    Great effin movie. Had a bad ass head ache because of the 3D glasses then had my glasses on then switched and I'm dizzy. The graphics and the animation was amazing. I highly recommend this movie.
     
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    Or, perhaps after the novelty of the CGI wears off, all that will be left will be a crappy story?

    Kinda reminds me of Titanic. When it first came out everybody and their dog praised it, loved it, and raved about the CGI.... and now, after the novelty of the CGI has worn off, people realize what crap it was.
     
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    Just came back from this movie, blown away. Say what you want about Titanic or Avatar, but for some one with an ADD-like attitude that I have (when watching TV, I would change the channel for 30 secs on some shows because I can "guess" what happens in the dialogs/scenes), very few movies can pull me into another world and make me stay there. Cameron is the man.

    That is all.
     
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    I don't thing the CGI is why Titanic was so popular. Was it guys constantly going to see that movie 3-5 times for the amazing boat sinking scene? No it was girls going to see some pretty boy give his life for a chick.
     
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    SPOILERS!!!!




    :grin:
     
  19. Bruce

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    All I have to say is... This movie could have SO used some Ron Perlman.
     
  20. PointForward

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    OK, is IMAX like millions of times better than real D 3D? I just came back from AMC 30 and watched in real D, but I wasn't blown away at all. Great movie, no doubt about it, great metaphorical story. But the graphics weren't nearly as "real" and awesome as some of you guys have contended. Should I go try IMAX 3D?
     

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