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[Movie] Cloverfield

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  1. Rocket G

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    So let's say it did come from space, the military failed to even make a dent in it during the attack, and as for aftermath it apparently swam away and hasn't been seen since.

    That would be one crap movie.

    That was another point of contention I had - the military didn't even make a dent in it. Even if it got knocked back it just kept going.

    Pointless.

    Seriously, what's the point in making a monster with ZERO vulnerabilities?

    Even Godzilla could get ****ed up after enough time. This thing, nothing.

    They might as well have made a movie where a guy films NYC getting nuked by some unknown method, everyone dies, and no one ever finds out who did it and whether they were punished.

    Also, if the military found the footage, how is it released to "us" now?

    And before someone pipes up with "it's showing how people would act in an insane and unexplainable disaster" - I realize this - and the people are acting like ****ing morons.
     
  2. Rocket G

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    And to close, JJ Abrams - what a douche.

    This is from the production notes, right?

    "The concept for the monster (affectionately known simply as “Clover” in-house) is simple, says Abrams. “He’s a baby. He’s brand-new. He’s confused, disoriented and irritable. And he’s been down there in the water for thousands and thousands of years.”

    And where is he from? “We don’t say – deliberately,” notes Goddard. “Our movie doesn’t have the scientist in the white lab coat who shows up and explains things like that. We don’t have that scene.”

    Not only is the creature disoriented – he’s downright angry. “There are a bunch of smaller things – humans – that are annoying him and shooting at him like a swarm of bees,” observes Reeves. “None of these things are going to kill the monster, but they hurt it and it doesn’t understand. It’s this new environment that it finds frightening.”

    Okay then, explain to me why the monster - even as a baby, has been living under the sea for thousands of years suddenly decides to go directly to the largest city in North America and stick itself in the middle of these "bees" and trash everything around it when all it has to do to escape the "bees" is take two steps and dive back into its safe ocean?
     
  3. CDogg

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    This is from JJ, the guy who made LOST, I quit watching lost after season 1, there are way too many questions and absolutely NO answers at all.
     
  4. tomato

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    Didn't the really hot girl escape in a seperate helicopter?
     
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    Gosh Darn you tomato! that's not what I meant to do!
     
  6. CDogg

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    I also think that JJ stole the idea for this monster and the little ones from the PS3's FPS Resistance Fall of man:

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    Depends on what you mean by the hot one. Obviously the hot chick they were going after died. The gf of the brother that died on the bridge did presumably get away
     
  9. Billyp

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    Did the movie remind anyone else of 9/11 in a way? People were running around the city in a panic as buildings collapsed and dust clouds immersed the streets. In the beginning stages, no one had a clear idea of what was happening and a lot of the video footage we saw on CNN was video from hand held cameras and cell phones. I thought that was the coolest part of the movie to be honest.
     
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    So how can this be a monster movie if there is no backbone story to it???? This is more in tune with reality disaster genre than a monster movie...
    Note to future filmmakers... You don't have to define or set a benchmark in filmmaking by telling a story in the camera's POV to prove your realism... Just keep my movies conventional with storytelling with steady shots... I'm getting tired of this MTV wave pop culture... Let's go back to plowing fields and milking cows... Who's with me on that????
     
  11. kikimama

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    Camera view is ridiculous. People started leaving half way through the film. People who paid 8 bucks, left the theater. Story is underdeveloped. The people in the film are idiots. Some of the worst "OMG I'm so scared!" shouts I've heard. The girl they went back for had a freaking half inch METAL rod stuck above her left bosom from back to front. No, she was still able to run full speed, just ridiculous. My GF was about to past out and so was I because of the shaky camera. That was more uncomfortable than getting caught master baiting by your own mom.

    Highly suggest you don't watch it, unless you love headaches and corny love gimmick plot behind terrorizing fish/crab/venom from spiderman/godzilla sized pasty grey colored monster that's been (quoted from director) "hiding in the seas for thousands and thousands of years and is scared that there are little people running about and shooting at it." !@#%ing r****ded. Then they just throw in the "mini crabs" that sound like a electronic gadget that have spider like eyes for no reason.

    The movie itself is ironic. It's suppose to be real, but there are just so many unimaginable elements. It's like my logic class: if regan is the president, then the moon is a hamburger. Just because some people here say, oh you gotta use your imagination, doesn't make sense. Let's all pretend that the monster was just looking for a mate and those "mini crabs" were monster sperms looking to impregnate a mate. Wow, this is so much fun. :rolleyes: I feel more intellectual now. :confused:
     
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    We never really saw the last couple die. I know Voltron is far fetched. But I noticed small details. First, this movie (Cloverfield) was rumored to be a Voltron movie when the trailer came out at Transformers. Second, JJ Abrams is doing a Star Trek movie...I'm guessing sci-fi pop is his new trend.

    The fact that there's no closure is why I think the movie is part of a bigger picture. I doubt it's Voltron myself, I just threw it out there based on the above mentioned.

    Have fun with the ending.

    I'm not sure if you saw the "easter eggs" in Cloverfield:

    The voice at the end of the credits, the main character sounds like he's saying "help me," and when it's played backwards, he clearly says "it's still alive."

    If he knows it's still alive, then he survived the bombing.

    Also, there's the object that falls from the sky and into the ocean to make a splash. This can be seen at the end of the movie when the tape goes back to the main character and his girl on a ferris wheel. The main character pans his camera to a view of the ocean, and you can see an object making a splash on the right side of the screen.
     
  13. Cannonball

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    Who says it's the main character? There's radio static. Did the dude have a radio? No. Unless he crawled out of the rubble and went back to the helicopter. I assume it's just a military guy who can see the monster from the air. That's the only part that doesn't fit in the with the first person perspective.
     
  14. Oski2005

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    Voltron is very far fetched and downright wrong. It only takes a few seconds to look up the Voltron movie that is in preproduction. I read a script review this summer. The Voltron script does take place in New York, coincidentally and it's about a post apocalyptic earth after an alien attack.

    So far the movie is still early in developement and the most recent update was that they were negotiating with New Regency to produce the movie and New Recengy is currently located on the Fox lot. Cloverfield as we already know was produced by JJ Abrams company and he is attached to Paramount. THEY ARE NOT RELATED.

    Voltron script review:http://www.latinoreview.com/scriptreview.php?id=65


    I liked it, I'm sorry for people who aren't satisfied, I feel like you guys want everything to be neatly wrapped up and hand delivered to you. The point of the movie is to show you a monster attack from the perspective of people on the ground. We've seen plenty of monster movies where everything is explained. It's something different and I thought it was entertaining. I think the viral campaign, if you have followed it, fills in some of the gaps.

    Anyways, if you didn't know going in that the ending was going to be abrubt, I don't know what to tell you. The trailer has that text talking about how the footage was FOUND at incident site whatever "FORMALLY" known as central park.


    The last Coney Island scene, you see something in the distance fall from the sky and splash down in the water. People are saying that it was the Tagruato sattelite and that the attempt to retrieve the sattelite may have awoken the monster.

    As for what happend to Hud's love interest:
    she freaking exploded, how could you not see that? Even in the trailer you can see her body expanding a couple of times. I don't think the parasites were laying eggs or anything, just some "terrible" poison or toxin that utterly destroys people in a horrific way. Poor girl, if she hadn't tried to save Hud, that might not have happened to her.
     
  15. Oski2005

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    BTW, did you guys get the Man vs Wild joke? My sister just told me Hud listed the show as one of his favorites on his myspace. "It's like a cre-vass I mean crevice."
     
  16. Nero

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    Have you not seen or read ANY of the internet backstory marketing stuff at ALL?

    The creature si an ancient being, prehistoric. It existed on a microscopic lifeform, kind of like how large sea mammals live on plankton today. Thousands of years ago, some kind of even made all these life forms go dormant beneath the ocean floor - the large predator-beasts, and the microscopic life forms upon which they fed.

    The 'Slusho' company, part of a larger deep-sea oil drilling company, has stumbled upon this microscopic lifeform, and inadvertantly discovered that it works as a highly-addictive and healthy ingredient in a slurpee-type drink - 'Slusho'. The company has been dredging the sea-bed now for years, and transporting this substance all over the world, in tankers even, and this led to the causing of the gigantic dormant creature to come awake and immediately begin searching out its prey, its food.

    The 'oil platform' which was destroyed in the Atlantic was just off the coast of New York.

    This is just a thumbnail account of the backstory available out there, if you're interested.

    Fact is, though, in the 'world' of this movie, in order for it to have any integrity as a movie 'device' at all, it is literally impossible for any of those questions to be answered in this movie.

    That is one of the things which leads people to think that there may be a more conventional movie to be made here, essentially the movie which DOES answer all these questions, and which does have some kind of real resolution. Heck, it could even let us find out whether or not Rob and his girl made it out alive.

    Oh, and poor Hud. I really liked that guy.

    'I don't know - it's a terrible thing.' 'That's another terrible thing.'
     
  17. DonnyMost

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    saw it.

    had to turn off my brain a few times to enjoy it.

    oh well.
     
  18. Rocket G

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    Give me a ****ing break.

    I know you must derive some joy from this bull**** MTV/MySpace driven media world you live in, but some of us don't have time to follow some bull**** "viral marketing" campaign around to figure out wtf is going on in a movie.

    Your response still does not address what Abrams & his people have said. The creature is scared & bewildered. It's annoyed at people shooting at it. All it needs to do is take two steps to return to the ocean and search for its "prey" (stupid) if that's what it is looking for.

    It's a **** movie. Movies are judged on their own merit, not on their own and their "viral marketing"

    :rolleyes:

    People have gotten so complacent, so desperate to see any sci-fi that is even remotely decent that they are willing to excuse crap when they see it.
     
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    I'll say one thing: this movie is generating a lot of opinions.
     
  20. TheParrotIsNoMo

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    I guess that is the whole point of what JJ Abraham wants; a cult following... As for a sci fi film-no, Monster genre-maybe, but popcorn entertainment, then yes...
     

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