Spoiler 1. Not sure if you worded this right, but a kick removes you from a deeper dream and wakes you up in the dream of lower depth (like level 3 to level 2). You can't skip levels, which is why all the kicks had to be simultaneous. 2. Like I said in 1), a kick only helps you wake up 1 level back, so to wake up to reality, each dream needed a kick that occurred simultaneously. 3. What I heard was because that dream was so deep, they might have needed multiple kicks in case the sedative was too strong. She didn't want to take the chance so she jumped off the building.
Spoiler The only way to get out of Limbo is to kill yourself. But that obviously requires you knowing you are in Limbo, and what you are seeing is NOT real.
Spoiler Why was Saito so old? I could understand maybe 20 or 30 years OLDER than in the initial "job", but why did Cobb's dream make him look THAT old? Was it an exponential age transgression?
Spoiler they were still in the furthest level where time is even slower so that saito was cobb's projection of him. it may have taken him decades to find him in that dream world and so cobb projected what saito should look like from the time when he started his search to when he finally found him -at least thats what I thought
Spoiler Saito had "died" long before Cobb ever went into Limbo. The rules of time weren't clearly detailed, but they essentially said it could last forever unless they were either snapped out of it (kick/death) or the machine timed out. Cobb looked a little older/more weathered, which means he'd probably been in Limbo for about approx 10 years (total guess) meanwhile Saito was there for 40-50 years. The only problem with Limbo is after long enough, you might start to think it is reality, and you don't realize immediately it's not real. If you notice, they don't exactly remember exactly what is going on when Cobb and Saito are sitting at the table. They slowly start to remember why they were there, and where they were, and about the agreement, etc. In essence, Cobb was Saito's totem, and Saito was Cobb's totem. Had the timer ran out, or either of them died, they'd have snapped back to their previous/younger selves, and not known how to handle that (more Saito than Cobb). Imagine knowing your 80 year old self as reality, then snapping back into being a 30-40 year old. That'd be a total mind****.
Spoiler Ken Watanabe is essentially 51 years old, so assuming similar age for his character, and tacking on about 30 years, that would make Saito 80-something by the time Cobb gets to him in limbo. Some old people look really bad, and assuming there are still possibilities for certain health conditions in limbo, it's not impossible that Saito would look so deteriorated.
There is no telling how long Saito experienced limbo. There is an approximate x25 multiplier applied for the dream layers (10 hours-->1 week-->6 months-->10 years) but there is no telling to degree time slows in limbo. Its not unreasonable to assume that it slows at an exponentially higher rate than any other level as you are now no longer cognitively tied to reality through dream. You're mind is just completely lost. So while Saito died probably only a minute before Cobb did in Dream Level 1 (Saito gunshot wound, Cobb drowning) he could have been in limbo for what seemed to be 30, 40 years. What confuses the heck out of me is the two limbos we see at the end. Fischer gets shot by Mal, and goes to the limbo created by Cobb and Mal years earlier. Why? Then Cobb and Ariadne just descend into that level with the shared equipment. So is limbo just the 4th level? That doesn't make any sense, nor does finding Fischer in that level as they weren't connected to him in that descent. And Fischer's reasoning that he'd be with Mal also doesn't make a bunch of sense. She's a projection of his. If he (Cobb) isn't there, then she isn't. Fischer would have been by himself. Another question, why does dying in the lower level send Fischer to the 4th level? Shouldn't it send him back to level 2? It's only the sedative at the top that keeps them from coming all the way back, but there shouldn't be anything keeping them from going back up just a layer...unless they used the same sedative in each layer.
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Anybody going into this thread and not wanting spoilers ... what are you looking for exactly? You want to know if its a good movie? Yes, it is. Most of us liked the movie. Ok, now: stop reading and go watch it.
Had a question... Spoiler While in the airplane, how did Fischer not wake up with the tubes in his arm? If you die in dream world, you wake up instantly in real world. How was it possible that they all awoke within seconds of each other AND without being connected to the machine? There's no way the flight attendant could have removed them from the machine so quickly. Any explanations?
I know how to spoiler. I just forgot to. That's why I said, "crap, I meant to spoiler that" in the very next post. Spoiler Thanks though!
I've seen it. Twice. And while I do agree with that sentiment, the spoiler tag is kinda there for a reason.
Sometimes people don't know how. I figured I'd post how incase that was the problem. You posted while I was typing that post. Honest mistake.
Spoiler They all woke up to the first dream level (well, minus Cobb and Saito), the streets with the rain. Remember Fischer on the shore with Eames disguised as the older guy? The flight attendant probably at some specified point removed their tubes and they all exited sleep naturally. Much like how earlier in the train they removed Saito's tubes and he didn't wake immediately.
[movie] Inception I think this is the best movie of the year! Pure creation! The feeling is just like watching 'the lord of rings' or ' the Matrix'. Amazing! BTW, I thought there might be a thread about it on this board already, but couldn't find. Mod, please lock it if there's a thread already.
