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[Movie] Christopher Nolan's Inception

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Keyser Soze, Dec 15, 2009.

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  1. SwoLy-D

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    Ken Watanabe - GREAT ACTOR...
    too bad he died in this one.

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    ^ Check out who's dead smack in the middle of this here picture. THAT ASIAN DUDE is a top notch actor. :eek: I could care less what country he's from or what accent he has. I'd like to see some of his first few movies where he's not around actors who speak English forcing him to speak to them. Can anyone recommend any? :confused:
     
  2. rocketsjudoka

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    I agree it was probably the theater you were at. I watched it at a smaller theater without a state of the art sound system yet had no problem with the dialogue.
     
  3. Zergling

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    I think this pretty much assures us that there really was a reality in this movie. Some people have speculated all events in the movie were actually within a dream.
     
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    Check out Memories Of Tomorrow where he plays a guy with Alzheimer disease.. you can get the dvd here at this link.
    I have not seen the movie myself, drama isn't my cup of tea but it has like a 7.8 on IMDB meter...
    http://www.hkflix.com/xq/asp/filmID.544847/qx/details.htm
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  5. Qball

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    So easily one of the best movies in a long long time. This one's for the books.
     
  6. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    Not sure why the guy from 3rd Rock is getting so much pub. He dressed cool, he was cool, I get it. But his role was
    small
    . He was good and can probably be good as the Riddler don't get me wrong, but... ya.

    To me there are two kinds of good movies. The kind that are well, good, they tell a good story and entertain. The other incites emotion, it makes you feel different, it puts you in a mood. Those two things are the hardest kind of things to duplicate on screen. Meaningful tight stories and sparking emotion.

    Good story - District 9
    Makes you feel different -Shutter Island

    This movie somehow did both. Definitely a masterpiece, I feel like it needed even more time to be put together though. If Nolan had 3 more years to fine tune this movie it would have been better...

    and Dark Knight was better.
     
  7. Qball

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    Anyone else do a double-take when Joseph Gordon-Levitt made his appearance in the movie?

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  8. eric.81

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    I went and saw a matinee showing on Sunday morning... holy sh! Great, great movie. My wife and I both really, really enjoyed it. From the time they got to the snow (refraining from using any kinds of specifics here, for spoiler purposes) to the end, I was gripping the armrest of the theater like my life depended on it.

    We might go see it again this week at the other Cinemark because it has it showing in the "XD" theater.

    Can't stress this enough... AWESOME movie. Ellen Paige exceeded my expectations and every other actor was up to their usual standards. Christopher Nolan is a GENIUS. I left the movie looking at the world in a different way.
     
  9. rocketsjudoka

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    There is something that has been bothering me about the idea of the dream worlds in the movie.

    If they don't actually take Fischer into his own dream but are taking Fischer into someone else's, such as Yusuf's then Arthur's then Eames, how come Fischer's defense mechanism is active in those dreams?

    Cobb explains to Ariadne that the projections act like white blood cells when they become aware of a foreign dreamer entering your dreams but if that was the case then if you dragged somebody else's into your dream why would their projections populate that dream and protect them? Wouldn't your own projections protect you from them? Also Mal seems to follow Cobb where ever dream he goes. So she then a projection he is creating in others dreams and if so why can't others just filter out?

    Also I am wondering about the completeness of the dream reality. If you are the one dreaming the reality into existence wouldn't your perception of that reality only be limited to your first person experience? In other words anybody else who was in there wouldn't be able to experience anything else that you weren't experiencing. So how would it be possible for someone to hide out, or even be, in any part of your dream reality that you weren't directly experiencing, such as if I dream I am in a house and someone body else enters the dream and is in another room that I can't see into. From my reality the only thing that I am aware of is the immediate room I am in and while I might believe there is another room it doesn't exist until I perceive it.
     
  10. Miguel

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    The "Dreamer" just creates the world. The mark (Cobb, when he first brings Ariadne into it... Fischer in the main part of the movie) fills it with their subconscious. Cobb cannot control his subconscious because of Mal (as shown by both scenes I just mentioned) and all the people in it are projections of the mark.
     
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    They have some eerie facial similarities.
     
  12. Nero

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    Saw it twice so far at the XD Cinemark in Cypress. Well worth the few extra bucks.
     
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    can't wait to see this weekend w/ my g/f...
     
  14. Rocketman95

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    didn't they just tell fischer he was going into someone else's, but they actually went into his?
     
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    I think all Nolan's films have light vocals. I was watching Prestige the other night and even with the volume up pretty high on my headphones there were a few parts I had to rewind to make out. This adds an element of mystery and makes your subconscious want to watch the movie again.
     
  16. Keyser Soze

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    They went into Fischer's dream.
     
  17. Nero

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    No. You never go directly into the 'mark's dream. You bring the mark into a place that looks familiar enough to the mark for the mark to believe that he is the dreamer. Hence the need for a 'forger' and an 'architect' to create the dream environments with which to fool the mark.

    This is why Saito knew he was dreaming at the beginning, because he knew the carpet was different, because the architect did not do a good enough job of precisely re-creating the false world.


    When they first went in all together on the plane, they all entered Yusuf's dream, even Fischer. This is why it was pouring rain - Yusuf had to wee-wee.

    Then, in the van, they all went into Level 2 by going into Gordon-Levitt's dream.

    Then from there, they entered Eames' dream, but lied to Fischer when they told him they were going Hammond's. This was to get him to even more easily believe it was him in control of the place, and that he would 'find' the secret he would need to find, when in actuality, this was where the idea would be 'planted' instead.

    I believe that Eames planted the home-made pinwheel inside the safe, but Fischer's mind determined exactly how it would be revealed.

    This was the ultimate point of the heist, although they had to improvise the exact method once everything went south with Saito being shot and militarized security at every turn.

    And, as long as we are three levels deep, since people have asked about how could Saito and Cobb ride 'up' the kicks since they missed the final kick: By that point, all the previous dreamers were already awake. There was no more dream for them to be trapped in, other than Cobb's own deep subconscious, which he and Mal had created together. So Saito was trapped in Cobb's depths at that point, and had been since he finally 'died'. (on a side note, here's the question I have - Mal 'killed' Fischer, when then sent Fischer into the lowest level, and he was there even longer than Saito, so why wasn't Fischer and old man by the time they got there? My guess would be that somehow Cobb's projection of Mal kept Fischer from aging or experiencing that rapid passage of time, but maybe someone else has an idea).

    So, as the movie would lead us to believe, since there was only one dreamer remaining at that point (Cobb), then he and Saito killing each other would cause them to wake up directly, as long as the sedative had worn off. Or, maybe the sedative happened to choose that exact moment to wear off, which would have pulled them out whether they deliberately kicked themselves out or not. The question then becomes, would their minds have survived this 'external' awakening intact, or would their minds have been 'scrambled eggs', as put so eloquently in the film?

    As they both seem fine, my guess is they offed themselves and came back up that way.

    Ah well, when is the last time a movie caused this much discussion? I love it.
     
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    Thanks for the heads up. If I can convince our financial adviser (my wife) to splurge on $12 tickets, we're there.
     
  19. Keyser Soze

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    Thanks for the clear up!
     
  20. Yonkers

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    No, they clearly stated they were going into Fischer's dream. Fischer thought he was going into Robert Browning's dream, but Browning was actually his own sub-conscious... not Eame's. Eame's was standing there right next to Browning in the room.
     

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