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Move over Iverson Francis is the real answer.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Huskie303, Nov 4, 2002.

  1. DavidS

    DavidS Member

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    Sane,
    Don't mean to get off topic, but it seems as though that Kobe is starting
    to play "his game" rather than copy Jordan "like Mike."

    I've always thought that Kobe was more of a combination of
    Julius Irving, and Oscar Robinson. With some touches of Jordan.
    Sure, he copied a lot of Jordan's drives to the basket. But, it's just
    not the same. And he surly doesn't have the ball creativity in mid-air.

    By the way, he has touches of Pippen too. Does anyone know how many
    tripple-doubles Pippen has? I do remember it was a lot. Not as many as
    Oscar though, or Magic.
     
  2. madmaxu

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    Not many except for that DallasThomas guy/girl???

    Ok let leave the fact that AI has been in the playoffs alone since you'll just whine about the weak East and his team.

    Statistically, you are right, Steve avg more rebounds, more asists and etc. but one thing that sets AI and Francis apart during a game is AI play to win and Steve Francis play to pad his stats.
    Period. Just watch their defense, it'll become obvious.
     
  3. BALLhog 247 365

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    That would be complete when he crosses over Michael Jordan like AI did a long time ago:

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  4. DallasThomas

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    Just for clarification purposes, I have external genitalia.

    Allen does have better defense, you're right on that one...but I really do think overall Steve is the better player. If you were to trade Franchise for The Answer, I believe Philly would do better. The simple fact that Steve plays most of his games in the far superior West will tell who is better if at the end of this season both teams are in the playoffs and Steve's numbers are around the same.

    I really do think he needs to be given that AI role on the Rox for us to see his true talent though...because he is honestly not the best fit for a point guard position; although he seems to be fitting his square skills into the round hole as much as possible.
     
  5. TheReasonSF3

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    Are you kidding me? One crossover move by Iverson makes him better then Franchise? That is stupid.
     
  6. BALLhog 247 365

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    I'm not saying that makes him worse, I'm just saying thats all he has left to match AI's career accomplishments. Take it easy
     
  7. TheReasonSF3

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    1 crossover dribble is a career accomplishment? Steve has crossed over at on of people.
     
  8. DallasThomas

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    That, and take the Rox to the NBA finals. I can't wait for Steve to become Allen Iverson!!!
    :p
     
  9. BALLhog 247 365

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    Yea, all he has left to cross over is Michael Jordan
     
  10. TheReasonSF3

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    LOL. That is crazy. Francis has never even had an oportunity. The one times that he played against MJ (I was at the game), Francsi wasn't even guarded by MJ. That is redicoulous though. Shaq has never crossed up MJ. Does that Ming that Ivy is better then Shaq?
     
  11. BALLhog 247 365

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    Yes, AI is better than SHaq in my opinion, he just doesnt have a kobe
     
  12. EgRiFf08

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    Also, the major consenus in America would probably pick AI over Stevie...and u know why??

    Because when the playoffs come on they see AI carrying the Sixers on his back every year!
     
  13. TheReasonSF3

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    LMAO! Iverson better then Shaq? Are you drunk?
     
  14. BALLhog 247 365

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    SHAQ CANT DO **** CEPT DUNK. HE CANT SHOOT, DRIBBLE, OR PASS. HE JUST GETS IN THE LANE AND TAKES HIS WUSSY SHOTS.
     
  15. TheReasonSF3

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    You obviously don't know a lot about the game if you think that Shaq can only dunk.
     
  16. BALLhog 247 365

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    OK. LETS SEE WHAT YOU KNOW.
     
  17. codell

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    Of course he gets all his shots in the lane. Hes arguably the strongest human being in the history of the NBA. No one can stop him that close to the basket. You think he should be taking 15 footers???? Shaq knows his limitations offensively and uses that to his advantage.

    Shaq has averaged 3.5 assists the last three seasons (championships). He can pass.
     
  18. TheReasonSF3

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    I know that Shaq is the most dominant player in the game. He has skills anylike any other big man. He is deadly within 10-12 feet. He may not be able to shoot from the outside, but inside he is deadly. He has great post up moves too.
     
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    My point is, is he better all around than Iverson? no
     
  20. codell

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    Who gives you the best chance to win, Shaq and 4 scrubs or Iverson and the same 4 scrubs? A good big man usually always beats a good little man.

    If you say Iverson, you are being intellectually dishonest with yourself.
     

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