Most vicious pick you'll ever see in women's basketball

They say too often screens like that are called as illegal and they didn't see anything wrong with it that's not done on nearly every pick except that the pickee wasn't paying attention to where she was going.

 

She doesn't lean into her. She actually leans back. Good pick imo.

 

You didn't see my screen capture?

 

Yeah. Her knees are bent but she is leaning back.

 

Soooo, if you are wrong on this does that put you on probation?

Did she lean in? yes
Where her feet set the whole time? yes
Did she stick her elbows out? No
Did her upper body sway from one side or the next to make contact.? No
Are her feet staggared, or are they right next to each other?

Legal. Plain and simple, No one is going to be straight up and down every single time they set a screen. No one. Everyone leans into a screen, I don't care who you are, well unless you go around setting bad screens. Think about it, you cover the jewels straighten your legs and stick your chest out in the process, you arch you back, for balance reasons. I think it would be more dangerous to bend your knees and get real low to take the contact, knees would be coliding a lot more. More people would be getting hurt.

The root of the problem here is a defender that is too concentrated on the ball and not their outside surroundings, She also has no help from her teammates. You see this from time to time in the college and high school games. Heck I remember Bobby Hurley getting flattened once on the exact same play. Almost happened at the same point on the floor. Was it a foul then? No, is it a foul now, NO.

Now think what would have happened if her teammates called out the pick or she saw it coming, we wouldn't be talking about it, because she could have easily avoided the contact. Thats because the person setting the pick was not going anywhere, she was set. If anything she may have took herself out of the play.

 

There was a little bit of a lean; but the feet were planted just soon enough for her to be stationary, and she kept her arms and hands folded and close to the body, so, to me, it looks clean and technicall sound, though I would never try it in a pickup game, like I would never peg someone with a ball to keep from taking it out of bounds (unless I could do it lightly, off their foot or something).

Now, even though it was clean, I bet, in some abstract sense, women's basketball would be as marketable as men's ball if they had looser restrictions on physical contact; anything to help simulate the same physical intensity as dunking in the men's game. Granted, I'm thinking from a male and largely non-basketball perspective, so that's probably not relevant.

 

yes, but that's not really a problem considering i'm completely right. if anyone can watch that clip and not see someone turn around to set a pick right before someone gets to them, put their feet down about .2 seconds before the person gets there (and really that's being generous, considering her left foot basically gets to the ground as she's making contact), and lean forward into the person (which the screen capture shows) like crazy because they never had anytime to get set, then i don't know what to say. she basically didn't have time to set a real pick and just lept forward, planted her feet and let her forward momentum carry her straight into the person. it's right there on the video. watch it this time.

i'm not really concerned with high school coaches thinking it's great that it wasn't called, that's great if that's what they wish the rule was, but it doesn't really concern what the rule actually is. i wish a lot more charges were called blocks, but i won't argue when they're called correctly as the rule currently is. the refs missing it doesn't mean it wasn't illegal anymore than the refs calling a foul for dwade when nobody touches him actually means he was fouled.