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Most Pakistanis View US as Biggest Threat -Taliban a Distant Third

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by glynch, Aug 10, 2009.

  1. Mr. Clutch

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    Then they should be happy we just killed a Taliban chief.
     
  2. Ottomaton

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    On a purely antecdotal note, I know tons of Pakistanis and Indians who've immigrate to the Houston area for energy sector jobs who feel something between general distain and outright loathing and hatred of the USA and would go home if they could get quality jobs.

    In my estimation, the immigration statistics say more about immigration policy and economic opportunity as opposed to some sort of tacit endorsement of mom, baseball, apple pie and UAV's.

    Even then, you are still talking about a total of 500,000 Pakistanis (mostly Punjabi) in the USA from a country of 172,800,048, which would be equivilent of .2% of the population. I bet you could find .2% of the population in the USA who favored white power and racial segregation. That doesn't mean America is pro-white power or that Americans love white power.
     
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  3. meh

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    Yes and no. Yes because killing the leader is always good. No because now they don't know how the new leader will fight and his policies. Besides, the war itself is much more problematic than just killing a leader. Inflation in the country has been skyrocketing ever since US started its conflict with Afganistan. Mainly because Pakistan has to support the country, both the US and the Afgan side, in terms of food.

    As for the immigration thing. Pakistanians, at least well educated ones, knows the problems that exist in the country. And there are plenty of it. But that doesn't mean US is the #1 priority if they want to leave. There are other countries besides the US that Pakistanians can move to.
     
  4. Mr. Clutch

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    Fair enough. Though I never said they can't move to other countries, just that they seem to move to the US more than others.
     
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    Are you sure the majority of Pakistani-Americans are Punjabi? I know the majority of Pakistanis in Pakistan are Punjabi, but I don't think that's the case here (at least from what I've seen in Houston and Chicago). My parents are Pakistani-Punjabi, and most Pakistani-Americans we know seem to be Sindhi/from Karachi.
     
  6. Dairy Ashford

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    But they know we would never have most of them. And some Americans would never want any of them. Most Pakistani adults have watched us indirectly destabilize two or three countries in their immediate vicinity. And the prosperity, freedom and sense of security that we have here inevitably comes at their suffering and that of other weaker, poorer and less organized civilizations abroad. That's certainly not unique to the US or to this point in history, though.
     
  7. BrownBeast99

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    I know that before 9/11, most people in Pakistan were very enthusiastic about the US and wanted to move here as they had heard many great things. After 9/11 and the handling of the war on terrorism by the US government, much of that intrigue and positive curiosity went away and the US is not perceived as great a country as it was in the past.

    UK and Canada are getting more attention that before and the US is getting less love from citizens in Pakistan but they don't flat out hate us(at least the educated ones).
     
  8. Mathloom

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    First of all, you haven't given a link.

    Second of all, you are not accounting for total population or number of jobs.

    Thirdly, we are talking about Pakistanis. Your stats don't address the topic. Unless you consider all immigrants to be the same?

    Finally, you don't mention even a string of the trend. As in, the same stats for the last 10 years.


    I'm sure you realize that it would be annoying for a Pakistani to read, especially one who has moved to your country and made it a better place.

    You could have phrased your post much better. A hell of a lot better. I'm sure you wouldn't appreciate it if a Pakistani-American came in here and responded to you by saying "well, it's just so much easier to take a job from an american than anyone else."

    You would be equally annoyed with that. Quite frankly I could care less about the exact facts of the issue. I was just miffed by your snobbish comment. Perhaps you didn't mean it to sound snobbish, but since text is the only way to communicate here, you must expect (as evidence by the 3-4 posts after mine) that you were irritating smoeone with your comment.
     
  9. arno_ed

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    I completely agree, very good point.


    There is hardly any "white-guild" (like Bigtexx put it) in Europe, or at least there is very little that I ever encountered. Every now and then some European country apologizes to an African country for the slave trade. But hardly anyone cares about those statements.

    But in normal life there is hardly any impact of something our ancestors did. So I'm not sure how you mean the impact is more significant than most realize?
     
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    lol this is such bull****. i just visited pakistan and they hate the taliban with a passion, no one there likes them . dont listen to these bull**** surveys , taliban wants to control the lives of pakistanis and ppl in that country arent digging that
     
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    I still think their biggest threat is their president. That guy is a ****ing crook and deserves to die a painful death and burn in hell.
     
  12. Kamaqazi21

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    LOL at Pakistan thinking US is the biggest threat to them!!! I am Pakistani and my parents were born and raised there if it wasn't for their corrupted leaders over the years they may have been a well established nation by now. Many of the people in Pakistan are educated and intelligent yet they never get the chances to make anything of it due to the corruption in the government. The Taliban in the northmen areas are raising hell and killing innocent people. Every week they show an attack that has occurred and loss of life has been a result, this is from Pakistans own news (GEO) that we get at home not any US sources. Its sad because we have family there as well, the northern areas are most affected while the southern areas like Karachi and such are pretty safe. If the taliban left would Pakistan be a better place? I'm pretty sure that it would.
     

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