definately pick this up. miles tell his whole story in his own words. he may come off as arrogant and cocky, but he is always straight up. he was a player in the scene for so long and reading this book is like an intimate look into 20th century jazz.
Well, I just think that the Stones weren't any greater than the Beatles nor any of the blues-based rock bands like Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, etc. The Stones have had incredible staying power and some larger than life egos. Are they one of the greatest bands ever?? Yes, without question. Are they a top 5 band?? I would argue no, but I know many people would say that I am crazy. And maybe one day I will buy "Exile on Main Street", but not right now as there are too many other things for me to buy!
Dave Matthews Band Radiohead Limp Bizkit And pretty much anyone in the Rap/R&B industry that gets radio airtime nowadays are 'rated' higher than they should be. .... except for Ja Rule, wow that guy is talented.
Exile on Main Street is worth the purchase Manny. Overrated: Michael Jackson Elvis Marilyn Manson BB King Sting Not overrated: Beatles Stones Who Led Zeppelin Living Colour
As a life long Living Colour fan, I'm sad to say that their latest album blows. It sounds like it was recorded in a walk in closet. Man, it pains me to say that...
Well, I've listened to Radiohead and removing their political affiliation, I still don't like their music. I can compartmentalize and if you look at some of my choices on this list, I do compartmentalize. It's just every review I read about "Hail to the Thief" always mentions the political and frankly, I'm not buying an album because it has some political message. Popular music DMB Phish Outkast Mystikal Prince James Brown Meshell Ndegeocello Widespread Panic Tenacious D Erykah Badu Maxwell Stevie Wonder (pre-1980) Al Green Sade Sting the Beatles The Police Elvis Presley Alabama Fifty Cent Bob Marley Isaac Hayes Marvin Gaye Screamin' Cheetah Wheelies Jill Scott B.B. King Howlin' Wolf REM (pre-Out of Time) Jazz- Wayne Shorter Wes Montgomery John Patitucci John Coltrane Eric Dolphy Herbie Hancock (I've forgiven him for his fusion and 80's synth sins) Cannonball Adderly Bill Evans Art Pepper Brad Meldhau Art Blakey
I almost forgot two native sons of Mobile, AL: Jimmy Buffett Wet Willie (Weekend, Keep on Smilin') My dad went to school with the singer.
funny you should mention it... ------------------ Keith Puts Mick to the Sword Over Knighthood The legendary Rolling Stones' guitarist has flown into a rock and roll rage against Mick Jagger (news) over the singer's decision to accept a knighthood, the ultimate nod from the British establishment. "I don't want to step out onstage with someone wearing a coronet and sporting the old ermine," Richards told British music magazine "Uncut" in an expletive-rich interview. "I told Mick it's a paltry honor...It's not what the Stones is about, is it?" The Stones, still rocking after 40 years, made their names with crunching rock classics including "Satisfaction," "Street Fighting Man" and "Brown Sugar." A 1967 Stones' album was entitled "Their Satanic Majesties Request." Despite his near spotless rebel credentials, Jagger, 60, is scheduled to become "Sir Mick" at a Buckingham Palace ceremony on December 12. He will join British musicians Paul McCartney (news) and Elton John (news) who have already been knighted by Queen Elizabeth with a touch of the sword. Richards' own chances of arising Sir Keith, already thought slim after 59 years of hard living, will have receded even further. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...762&e=2&u=/nm/20031204/en_nm/people_jagger_dc
DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE p.s. bama, just a suggestion, but you really need to start basing your musicial taste on criteria other than, well, non-music related stuff.
Well what the hell do you want, a damned book on each? Jeez, so I offended your musical tastes. Of all those acts I listed, I find their muscianship and talent lacking and wonder why mags slobber all over them as if they were the greatest thing. I don't want to go into specifics with most of them, because they suck! For example, Nirvana is a great example of everything wrong with modern music. Mix in lots of distortion, intelligible off-key vocals that are more akin to screaming and you have, ta-dah, grunge. They can't play anything more than the same four chords in 4/4. What's the point? I love how someone tried to use record sales and "musician" respect to determine how good a band is. In the case of Radiohead, who cares if they are a critic's darling and liked by sucky pop players whose ability is no different than theirs? Pop music, for the most part, is so recycled, repetitious, and ridiculous that I can't even turn on the radio except for talk radio and sports. You can only do so much with a few chords and playing 4/4.
man-ram (can i call you that? ), i think that the beatles were the greatest band of all, after that its debatable. i would put the stones at 2 though. what an amazing coincidence that two hugely influential bands like them would both come out around the same time. its like pearl jam and nirvana or blur and oasis... i actually HATED the stones until about 5 years ago. i only knew them as the cheesy old dudes that they have been for the last 15 years. i was always a beatles fan, but i just didnt get the stones. sticky fingers is the album that turned me onto them though. you should check that one out. moonlight mile and sway are my 2 favorite stones tunes and they are both on there. i find myself listening to them alot more than the beatles these days. anyway, i cant believe that this many people find the beatles overrated. arguably the biggest single cultural phenomenon of the 20th century, the likes of which will never, ever be seen again. the freakin' beatles! overrated? me thinks if anything, they are underrated. btw, have you seen the zeppelin live dvd that came out earlier this year? amazing! those dudes could really boogie and john bonham is god with a gong!
You tear into Coldplay, Bruce, and PF, yet name 50 Cent, Mystikal, and Outkast as some of your favorites? I like rap okay, but Mystikal? Is there anything that this guy is good at? Lyrics? No. Rhythm/Beat? No. Voice/Flow of voice with music? Nope. I think Outkast may be one of the most overrated groups ever. To each his own, I suppose, though I still don't understand the anti-Coldplay, Bruce, and Pink Floyd sentiment. If anything, Coldplay is working at saving radio. They are one of the best bands that actually gets regular airplay.
Bama, Do you really LISTEN to the music you like?? If you do, I can't believe that you would find stuff that is timeless and eternal. Now, not all the stuff you listed is stuff that I would not touch with a ten foot pole. However, as others have said they are curious choices to the ones that you don't like. It is almost like you went through a list of bands that have always been darlings of the critics or have had a huge cult following and said, "Eh, I hate these guys because they have so many fans and people are still playing their stuff 30 years from now." Out of all those artists you listed, I challenge you to listen to "Dark Side of the Moon" by Pink Floyd at least 5 times. And you have got to be paying attention to the music. If you want to still come back and tell me that the Floyd is still overrated after, sincerely listening to DSOTM, then I will just have to say that you are the exception to the rule.
I want to stick up for Springsteen. I really don't listen to his music much but I don't think he is overrrated. The guy is smart as hell. I wish I did know more about his music so I could defend him better. Being from the Clear Lake / Seabrook area, this song of his is definitely one of my favorites. It is based on a true story: Galveston Bay Fifteen years Le Bing Son Fought side by side with the Americans In the mountains and deltas of Vietnam In '75 Saigon fell and he left his command And brought his family to the promised land Seabrook Texas and the small towns in the Gulf of Mexico It was delta country and reminded him of home He worked as a machinist, put his money away And bought a shrimp boat with his cousin And together they harvested Galveston Bay In the mornin' 'fore the sun come up He'd kiss his sleepin' daughter Steer out through the channel And casts his nets into the water Billy Sutter fought with Charlie Company In the highlands of Quang Tri He was wounded in the battle of Chu Lai And shipped home in '68 There he married and worked the gulf fishing grounds In a boat that'd been his father's In the morning he'd kiss his sleeping son And cast his nets into the water Billy sat in front of his TV as the south fell And the Communists rolled into Saigon He and his friends watched as the refugees came Settle on the same streets and worked the coast they grew up on Soon in the bars around the harbor was talk Of America for Americans Someone said, "You want 'em out, you got to burn 'em out" And brought in the Texas klan One humid Texas night there were three shadows on the harbor Come to burn the Vietnamese boats into the sea In the fire's light shots rang out Two Texans lay dead on the ground Le stood with a pistol in his hand A jury acquitted him in self defense As before the judge he did stand But as he walked down the courthouse steps Billy said "My friend, you're a dead man" One late summer night Le stood watch along the waterside Billy stood in the shadows His K-bar knife in his hand And the moon slipped behind the clouds Le lit a cigarette, the bay was as still as glass As he walked by Billy stuck his knife into his pocket Took a breath and let him pass In the early darkness Billy rose up Went into the kitchen for a drink of water Kissed his sleeping wife Headed into the channel And casts his nets into the water Of Galveston Bay
I guess that the main reason I like none of the bands I listed is simple. They are just not good musicians nor do they put out good art, but yet people consider them visionaries. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact I've become kind of a rhythmn/jazz facist. If it doesn't have a groove, doesn't swing or do something wickedly inventive, I'm probably not going to like it. All of the people I named on my like list have that in common (with the exception of early REM) When you have sterile techno drum machines and distorted guitar playing the same four chords constantly, you're not going to do anything groundbreaking. The Stones are not good musicians. Sure, they may be derivative, as everything is, but I'd like to see Keith Richards play some Wes Montgomery-style jazz. Not going to happen, even if he had a few brain cells remaining. The jam bands are about the only newer white music I can tolerate these days, because the rest sounds identical. When I go back and listen to the DSOTM, I have to suppress a laugh. It is such pretentious, dull, overwrought tripe from a bunch of Englishmen who milked it all the way to the bank. Mind you, Money is still a decent tune with that crazy time on the sax solo, but the rest? It's a lot of noise. As for those who say that Outkast is overrated, don't confuse overexposure with overrated. Sure the radio may overplay their stuff, but at least they are taking a break from the same old b.s. they play in between commercial breaks. The boys from ATL are probably the most inventive musicians out there and with their new CD, they've changed hip-hop forever. And as for this new crop of bands, I'll just keep playing my jazz and hip-hop CD's in the car. No need to pollute my ears with the same old 4/4, verse-chorus-verse-chorus-verse-chorus nonsuch that is modern rock and roll. I want to hear Coltrane rip out one of his marvelous solos. I want to hear Mystikal bust out with wicked triplets like a machine gun with the hammer down over a bombastic beat. I want to hear Carter Beauford lay down the groove on the drum kit on yet another DMB song. I want to hear Al Green sing sweeter than a plate of sweet potato casserole over a great Isaac Hayes rhythmn section with some of his B-3 thrown in. I want to hear the original New Orleans funk band the Meters put a groove in my morning commute as they show the world what the funk really is. Now that my friends is music.
I have to disagree with anyone who named outkast as over rated. I understand if people don't like outkast, but at least they are doing something different. They are creative with a capitol 'C'. They could have played it safe with this latest album, but instead they mangaged to do something really new, and fresh. And, unlike some bands, they aren't being different just to try and show how experimental they are. They did different things, but it all came together as genuine. Of course I'm not one of those that dislikes them, but I do know people that do. But I don't think any of those people would call them over rated. Andre 3000 really just let's the stuff flow out of him, without that inner voice that tells other people to play it safe, that this doing things a certain way may not make work, or would make somebody look foolish. It sounds like whatever creative thoughts pop into his mind come out without letting anything get in the way of that.
I kind of feel the same about Radiohead as I did in the above post about Outkast. I know even some Radiohead fans didn't like Kid A, but man I think that's the first new thing I've heard in music since the Pixies. The way they used some really strange time measure in some of those songs, plus the integration of horns and other sounds that are totally unique, original, and creative, really amazes me. I was a fan prior to Kid A, but after that I really appreciated them for their contribution to music. Listen to Kid A, it's different than anything before. This album, is also a courageous move. It followed up all the praise they received on OK Computer. If they had made another album like that one they would have been as huge as huge can be now, but they went the creative route. To me they are the leaders of modern music. Nobody else is on that level as far as innovation goes. Of course, it all depends on how you weight your criteria. I put very heavy emphasis on innovation and originality. Others may put more weight on different things.
