Most extensive Climate report ever shows Disaster underway

As expected, you didnt bother to read anything i tried to convey. We do not have the technology to switch over to only renewables. Nuclear is not the end-all solution. You're no different than the ideologues who think things like cap and trade are a solution. You're just clamping your ears and screaming "no more O&G" when you're simply ignoring the impact it would have on society across the board.

 

yes, those liberal elitists working over at exxon.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/

also the fact that you think anyone would lie about wanting to save the environment is astoundingly conspiratorial.

 

What you're asking for is civil unrest, high unemployment, massive inflation all which will inevitably lead to war. All because you're 'deeming' something you really have no idea what you're talking about.

There is no point in cutting back in lifestyle if our population continues to grow exponentially.

 

Oh cool.... yes let me give you every aspect of my daily life so you can poke holes at it to call me a hypocrite. Sounds like a plan.

I do what I can, and what I can afford to do. Here in TX we do have options that get looked over all the time, and I take those options when they are available... such as renewable clean energy via my electric provider, using our Hybrid Civic for travel when we are going longer distances (although my wife is trying to talk me into a Mini Cooper), and switching to an E-Go lawnmower. I try to do things like that to "hit them in the pocket book" as a consumer as much as I can.

But those little changes aren't going to curb the devastation enough unless, like with the space program post WW2, there is a push at the highest levels to take more drastic steps. The Paris Accord, is really small potatoes here as well. There needs to be massive engineering efforts, and higher intuition..... not exactly the opposite.... which is propagating ignorance like the crap Trump spews out along with his media arm that pump out millions of Bobby's and TJ's turning around and pointing fingers at me & my George Soros checks I get in the mail.

When Kennedy said we needed to go to Space before the Communists, half of the country didn't point at the other half and say they are brainwashed paid protester hypocrites. There was a general consensus that yeah.... kind of the smart thing to be trying to engineer.

Why in the world have Americans become inherently inhumane morons? This is not a partisan issue. And shouldn't be since you'd think most people here are from Houston, or have some connection to Houston... one of the cities poised to bare a large brunt of the impact of climate change over the next few decades.

 

Seriously.... I'll just emphasize that last point again. You cannot tell me that the country who led manned missions to the moon & back cannot figure out a way to engineer effective ways to pull CO2 from the atmosphere on a large scale.

If Trump started a program (call it "Climate Force" or whatever) to fund engineering efforts to find a real solution for pulling carbon out of the atmosphere, I might even vote for him in 2020.

 

I got a 2017 sedan that gets +50 MPG and I eat meat 3 times a week. I cut the meat more for health reasons, lost weight and able to keep it off.

I just wanted to make sure there’s nothing left to debate about climate change except for making sure liberals are environmental enough.

 

Frankly there is no need to make drastic changes. Taxing pollution would be the easiest option so the prices things more accurately reflect their true costs.

 

huh? how is taxing going to reduce anything? Do you really want these taxes to go fund more wars? Because they surely arenot going to go to anything useful.

 

Well if you raise taxes enough it'll grind the economy to a halt which means fewer emissions. Crippling the economy and causing massive human suffering is pretty much the goal of the AGW religion.

 

China is doing its part.

 

No one is going to touch the science of this here because they aren't qualified to do so.

At some point though people need to STFU and listen to scientists when it comes to a matter of science.

I'm waiting for the first response here to debunk the 695 page report made by scientists...

 

I don't even know what my way is so, I'm not sure how you know it's the wrong way.

All I know is we have to do something serious. As for how, that's up to people that are much smarter to figure it out. If you leave this to individuals to become enlighten on either the danger of their daily routines, or how they are part of a very interdependent system (you know, treat mother nature as something that your livelihood is dependent upon) to drive significant changes at the individual level - see you at human 2.0. Not that we shouldn't do that - we should, but that alone isn't going to come close to solving climate change.

 

Well when pollution isnt subsidized and instead the costs are part of the price then consumers will change their behavior.

 

Renewables are subsidized too. Whats your point?

And as I explained, with the exponential growth of population on this planet, changing habits is pretty meaningless.

We need clean energy. You dont get that by taxing. Taxing is not the solution to every problem in the world.

 

You just triggered every single one of our friends on the left. The belief that taxes are the solution to every problem in the world is just about the only thing they believe in.

 

This sort of prognostication and doomsaying is just as bad as the most fervent of environmentalists proclaiming we're already done for