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Morey's Wild Card

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by sjackson0, May 25, 2010.

  1. Redfan

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    Any contract can be bought out, it just takes the right amount of money. The rockets would just need to agree to a number with barcelona and rubio before hand.
     
  2. Houston_Rockets

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    So you can't envolve AB in this, give the 2012 NYK pick instead and pray that NYK loose against us in the final in 2011 and 12, muhaha
     
  3. Houston_Rockets

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    IN LES WE TRUST
     
  4. rockets934life

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    Honestly don't think so, it's been pretty much understood whoever got Rubio was getting him for 2011. The contract has a poison pill I read somewhere that makes his buyout before 2010-11 impossible.
     
  5. ASidd_1990

    ASidd_1990 Rookie

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    I'd rather have Bosh and Calderon than Jefferson and Rubio.

    Just my 2 cents.
     
  6. jump shooter

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    I'll take Jefferson and Rubio in a heartbeat. Problem is the price could be pretty high and I'm sure Brooks, another core player and draft picks would have to be involved for the rockets to bring in haul like that.
     
  7. meh

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    An NBA team can only contribute 500K to any player buyouts. So no amount of money matters. If we get Rubio, he's coming in NEXT season, not this one.

    As for Morey being a "wild card", it's not that he pulls random trades out of his hats. But rather he works the phones and get all the possible trades out there. He simply outworks other GMs because he doesn't let potential trades slip by while he twiddles his fingers.
     
  8. Entropy

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    And Morey knows exactly what he's willing to give up to get something, backed up by his stats and his own basketball observations. If a deal comes along that is lopsided in our favor, he'll take it. If not, good bye, no thanks. Its probably a given that he has several contingency plans in mind should we not get Bosh.
     
  9. Pete the Cheat

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    I like Al Jefferson.
    Honestly I have been sitting here trying to articulate my concerns about how he would mesh with Scola and Yao defensively.

    But if the alternative is either Bosh or Amare...aren't we really just splitting hairs?
    None of these players offers much defensively (at least at a dominant level). I recall a somewhat recent article pointing out the consistent decrease in Bosh's block numbers since his rookie season (when he was projected as a defensive ace).

    Fortunately, if we were to pick up Jefferson Jordan Hill compliments all three of our other big men quite well :grin:

    For those of you grumbling over this possibility. Let me remind you that before Jefferson went down at the end of the 2008-09 season, he was abusing everyone in his path. The guy can flat out score at a devastating clip beyond the capability of either Bosh or Amare.
     
  10. rocketblaze

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    With Yao & Martin already being injury prone, no way do I go after Jefferson...

    However I would like to go after Cousins in 2010 NBA Draft, and their are some opportunity with the Sixers shopping the #2 overall pick with a price tag of taking on the remainder of Brands Contract...

    Philadelphia Sixers-
    Shane Battier (Expiring)
    Jared Jeffries (Expiring)
    Chase Budinger
    2012 NY pick

    The Sixers get rid of Brand's (Albatross) contract while getting a young prospect and NY pick in return...

    Minnesota T-Wolves-
    2010 2nd pick - Evan Turner
    2011 NY pick (rights-to-swap)

    The T-Wolves get their coveted #2 overall pick in Evan Turner with out having to take on Brands contract, while at the same time receiving an asset in the form of a future pick from NY ...

    Houston Rockets-
    2010 4th pick- Demarcus Cousins
    Rights to Ricky Rubio (2009 | 5th pick)
    Elton Brands (albatross contract)

    The Rockets get their hands on two Franchise Talented level prospects in Rubio & Cousins! and Brands contract would end around the time we have to resign both Rubio and Cousins... (The Rockets have the Chinese Sponsors to do Rubio's buy-out)

    2010/11 Houston Rockets:
    Rubio | Brooks
    Martin | Taylor
    Ariza | *George
    Scola | Hill | Andersen
    Yao | Cousins | Hayes

    *2010 14th pick: Paul George

    --RB
     
  11. monster

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    Is anyone else concnerned with Rubio's speed? I know he makes impressive passes and his basketball IQ is supposedly very high, but there have been other Euro-superstars who came to the NBA and couldn't cut it. I just don't see enough speed from Rubio to get by some of the quicker guards in the leauge. Maybe his other talents overcome his lacking there.
     
  12. Redfan

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    With the little bit of footage I have seen of rubio I think he overcomes the lack of speed much the same way that nash does. I think nash is still highly effective even now because time spent playing soccer made him accustomed to working in pressure and having a feel for everything on the field/court. His patience and deliberance allows him to maximize the speed he does have and channel it all into a single purpose. Many NBA athletes run really fast in a bout 7 different directions and the end result is they go nowhere.
     
  13. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Neither Kidd nor Nash is all that quick but they are quick with the ball.

    DD
     
  14. VooDooPope

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    Ain't no way in Hell that Rubio comes in and starts ahead of Brooks. No way.
     
  15. leebigez

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    A 20 yr old kidd was as quick as they came and you know this. They can keep rubio as far as I'm concerned. He's like a less athletic,smaller,shaun livingston when he was healthy. If you want that kind of guy, just sign livingston
     
  16. leebigez

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    I think people are forgetting this. It takes a year getting over his injury. I'm hoping minny forgets this too and the rox can get him on the cheap, well cheaper than it will cost for bosh in terms of contract and players.
     
  17. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Livingston looked pretty danged good late in the year.

    I disagree about Rubio, he is special, and he proved it as a 17 year old playing as well as a lot of the better known USA guards in the Olympics.....

    If Minny is going deep into rebuild then by all means pilfer Jefferson, guys that are more than a year away from surgery will be better.....it would be a nice move for Morey.....and his salary to production ratio is pretty darned good.

    DD
     
  18. leebigez

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    I know and thats what I'm saying. Livingston was special enough to go 3rd in the draft but he had some bad injuries. All I'm saying about rubio is a 6'4, slow fotted pg with no post game and below avg shooter is going to struggle big time. I'm not even talking about with the brooks and parkers of the world, I'm talking about with the other bigger physical guys like rose,westbrook,and williams. When you're a big guard and can't utilize the height advantage, you're going to struggle. His footspeed isn't ideal even for a big guard which is what he is. I understand the clamoring for him in the scouts eyes or fans because of what they saw in the olympics, but we've seen patty mills and shane heal put on performances like that too. I'm not saying those guys are as good, I'm just saying from what I watched, I'm trying to see whats the big deal. I'm watching the same videos and cut up of the scouts, not you tube either.
     
  19. Redfan

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    Where are you getting these videos from? Just curious, they would be interesting to look through
     
  20. leebigez

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    If i did that, i would have to kill you :p
     

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