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Morey's theory is a ****

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Patricker, May 10, 2015.

  1. albuster

    albuster Member

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    In a more direct term, just because you graduated from MIT and have excellent analytics background you can now become an NBA GM because you hired some basketball experts to assist you? Well, you can argue all you want but the results over almost a decade of "In Morey we trust" is out there and they speak for themselves. You can post all excuses you can think of to justify the massive failures but the facts are what they are.
     
  2. dmoneybangbang

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    Yes. Do you understand why?

    Seriously... Do you think every CEO, president, vice president, executive is an expert in their respective field or industry? Or do they create a system where they hire people who are suited to present good information and advice to make decisions?

    You ignored my statement which I'll turn into a question:

    What has Isiah Thomas done for the Knicks as a GM and what has Michael Jordan done for Charlotte?
     
  3. dmoneybangbang

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    Did Morey get promoted over you?

    Yea, acquiring James Harden and Dwight Howard without tanking or having a top draft pick. Apparently that's a massive failure. IS that you Cuban? You mad bro?
     
  4. fallenphoenix

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    their job doesn't rely on agreeing with morey, so your premise is flawed. mchale has publicly commented that analytics don't tell the whole story
     
  5. dachuda86

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    The major thing we are lacking are bigs who can shoot a mid ranger... There is no point to a three point special is settling for two but bigs need to open the floor up with shooting from the mid...
     
  6. albuster

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    In almost a decade how many championships or finals appearance has Morey done for the Rockets?
     
  7. albuster

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    And yet he does what Morey tells him to do? What does Morey know about basketball?
     
  8. kchin

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    This is a spot on thread. According to Morey, analytics says that the 3 point or a dunk is the most efficient shot. This philosophy might work in the regular season but not in the playoffs where teams take away what they do best.

    He assembled this team and he's a McHale guy from their days in Boston. Morey needs to go.
     
  9. vizier

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    His algo is turning rockets into the lehman brothers of NBA.
     
  10. Kwame

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    The problem with quantitative methodology is that it's often times driven by theory as opposed to allowing the data to drive the theoretical perspective. Thus, data that doesn't confirm hypotheses is either discarded or manipulated to make it appear to be a determinant, which helps achieve a pre-determined conclusion. Then after all this is done people like Maury will claim that "analytics" supports their philosophy. Since most of the time we can't access the data set and evaluate the explanatory variables and since most people don't know a lot about quantitative methods, they'll just accept it and say something like "in Maury we trust."

    If you don't believe me, take a look at a Mark Cuban 2009 blog post where he claimed that the analytics staff of the Mavs had "objectively" come to the conclusion that Jason Kidd (his guy) was the 2nd best player in the entire NBA when it came to delivering when it mattered the most. Paul Pierce didn't even crack the top 30 while guys like Matt Bonner and Jarvis Hayes did. He even included the output. I can only imagine the omitted variable bias and data manipulation it took to create this model and reach that conclusion:

    http://blogmaverick.com/2009/02/08/nba-all-stars-by-the-numbers/
     
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  11. daywalker02

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    It is sacrilegious for a Nerd to play Basketball God.....

    He is the King of Nerds
     
  12. Aleron

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    The problem this series isn't the offense...
     
  13. pahiyas

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    Exactly. Is there a Morey analytics for defense?
     
  14. stab

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    When the other team scores 103 pts in 3 qtrs, that isn't Moreys 'theory' fault
     
  15. cheke64

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    When we play hack a jordan and still get outscored.
     
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    The problem to the series is lack of adjustments. Morey knows McHale is incompetent but brought him back anyway. Moreyball is a gimmick, and McHale's the perfect idiot to manage it.
     
  17. LonghornFan

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    I'm shocked I tell ya! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: We did make it out of the second round though. That's like a championship to us.

     
  18. daywalker02

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    WHERE ARE THE ADELMAN HIGH POST BACK DOOR CUTS??

    For God's sake
     
  19. Play07

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    adelman had guys at PF who could shoot, defenses react and play those type of players close its easier to get positive movement in that type of scheme.

    I been riding with mchale but this series was bad, but at the same time I cant blame the guy totally when you dont have a PF who can shoot or a point guard, or any one who can attach and finish in a controlled way.
     
  20. SamFisher

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    Given that the clippers are roasting us from the paint and with 3's...you started this thread.
     

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