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Morey's failure

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rocket2008, Mar 25, 2015.

  1. YOLO

    YOLO Member

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    you're complaining about 2 pg's that are terrible fits on this team.
     
  2. RHU525

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    Why is this even an issue. Might be a blessing in disguise. Quit looking at Terry and Prigioni. The rockets should just start Corey Brewer! Be like when the bulls were winning championships with Ron Harper and Jordan. two big gaurds.


    He can gaurd PG's and he's a better offensive player than Bev. Not like we relied on Bev to do much more than dribble up the court and pass to Harden.
     
  3. gmoney411

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    This view is so short sighted. The Rockets traded for KJ for the future. There is no guarantee that Brewer will be back and Ariza will be 30 next year.
     
  4. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard
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    I stuck to my promise of not starting another post after mine completely flopped... some should make similar vows.
     
  5. BoneYardDog

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    If we don't get swept in first round it will be amazing. None of the trades helped us win this year. Stupid trades that hurt our team.

    EDIT: If we get out of the first round I will add 50 bucks to the tip jar. How many of you who like those trades will do the same if we do not.
     
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  6. BoneYardDog

    BoneYardDog Contributing Member

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    So you give up on this year too now.
     
  7. hakeemthagreat

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    So your best player's having a MVP season, the team has a HUGE hole at backup PG & center, but you choose not to address this for cap flexibility? Do we really have the luxury of throwing away seasons now:confused:?
     
  8. Rocketeer Bang

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    i want to preface it by confessing that i have always been a Morey supporter.

    but then when i look at our roster, i wonder why we couldn't field a more talented team out there when it has been obvious all season long that a lack of functional PG would hurt us in the playoffs, if not the regular season.

    i have been a fan of Bev due to his heart and hustle, but he really has no business running this team. Bev is probably one of the worst PGs when it comes to half court offense cause he has no idea where the ball should go to, or even when he does, he couldn't.

    i look at a team like OKC, who got Dion Waiters, DJ Augustine, and Enes Kanter all during mid-season while Durant was recovering from injury. these are serviceable pieces which has alot to do with why all the sudden Westbrook was getting all these triple doubles. then i look at us, we traded out Shyvd along with two second round picks for an old-aged Prig, and McDaniels who's practically a no show, and i wonder why we did what we did.

    one other minor criticism i have for Morey is that we don't draft particularly well, and we don't necessarily develop them. we are better at signing free agents or trading for good players, but i wish we could have a team that's drafted to be Rockets because i believe players are more attached to the team that drafts them. TJones and Dmo are doing better, but the last closest thing to a "star" we drafted, Parsons, is now playing for our arch-rival at no cost to them.

    i also wish we could have drafted Clarkson instead of Nick Johnson in the second round last year. Clarkson was also a 4-year college guy, has better size, a better shooter, and plays hard.

    instead, Harden has very little help in the backcourt, and McHale is running him to the ground.

    as much as i hate to admit it, i fear with our current roster, i would not be shocked if we can't advance to the second round in the playoffs.

    such is life as a fan of the Rockets.
     
  9. hakeemthagreat

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    So the whole year it's:

    "Bev's terrible"

    "Bev can't score"

    "Bev can't create off the dribble"


    But 2 guards are available who can score & create off the dribble but their terrible fits? You guys gotta eventually make up your minds:rolleyes:
     
  10. YOLO

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    my preference from the beginning was Dragic and he is the perfect fit but we know how that story goes. but I'm not going to plug in 2 pg's that are horrible fits just because.
     
  11. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    There you go spitting nonsense again

    Josh Smith has never been a locker room cancer.
    There is documented evidence that Thomas was a cancer in Sacremento. Cousins wanted him gone.

    I don't even know why I bother to respond to 15 year olds
     
  12. YOLO

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    I'd say the rockets have developed a handful of young players who are still rotational players in this league. how many teams have drafted lottery picks and turned into busts. plenty.
     
  13. YOLO

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    looks like the same story with phx as well
     
  14. dobro1229

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    Nate Robinson..... you can't be a serious NBA follower then, and must be only remembering Nate of 2009 - 12. Even then he was never someone you can rely on to be a solid starter. Go watch some Clippers games as of late and tell me THATS a guy putting the Rockets over the top.

    I. Thomas... as I mentioned before, you're underestimating the fact that the Rockets and Suns are competitive with each other in the West. If there is a close comparative offer with a team in the opposing conference, who do you think they are going to pick to deal with?

    Also Thomas is a defensive liability, and will almost always be a 6th man coming off the bench. If the whole purpose of acquiring a 2nd ball-handler is to take pressure off of Harden, I refuse to see how Thomas helps. He takes shots away from others.... he doesn't create easier shots from others.

    Thomas is a talented scorer, and I would have loved to have him, but you guy underestimate how small (albeit important) his role would have been.

    and then you bring up McGee...

    seriously... have you not watched any basketball in 2 years? Have you seen McGee run up and down the court this year? The guy would be a longshot to even get in the rotation in the physical shape he's in. Then you add in the fact that he is demanding a 2nd year on his deal and his off the court issues, and its a no brainer to be very cautious about signing McGee.

    Also, you have to cut someone in order to sign him. You want to cut Johnson, and be even lighter at guard spot? You want to push all your chips on the table for "barely get up and down the court" McGee and cut a solid rebounder/defender in Dorsey? You want to give up any idea of free agency this Summer by cutting guaranteed $ in Dorsey, and giving guaranteed $ next year in McGee?

    You guys really don't look at the big picture at all.
     
  15. hakeemthagreat

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    Horrible fit? lol. We needed another ball handler that can score & create. Thomas is arguable better than Dragic at both. Nate is instant scoring off the bench. Please elaborate on this blanket statement
     
  16. BoneYardDog

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    So what is your big picture for this year? How far do you expect us to get and which trades at the deadline do you think gives us a better shot this year?
     
  17. YOLO

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    thomas is far from being better than dragic lol. theres so many things wrong with thomas. let us know when thomas can start leading a team to atleast a winning record and then talk. it's not even close bw those two. dragic is years ahead of thomas

    have you seen nate as of late? completely useless and he's 5'5.
     
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    (Drops Mic)
     
  19. Airdough

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    Based on KJ's free agent status and our cap situation heading into the off-season, there is no gurantee we will be able to retain KJ anyway.

    Everyone else, yes it's a bad post that only gets compunded by going on the attack towards the OP. Let the OP vent. We all do it and he has chosen this forum to do the venting. Heck, most of the people posting in this thread have gotten mad when the Rockets lose and posted right in the aftermath.

    The Rockets have potentially lost a good player at a position where there were opportunities to address. For one reason or another, the Rockets could not make that happen. Hindsight might be 20/20 but foresight isn't blind either.

    Let's hope NJ, Prigs, and Terry can do well enough to not be a negative. Like Trent Dilfer on the 2000 Ravens, they don't have to be the difference in winning games, just don't lose them.
     
  20. bingsha10

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    People only want a PG who can play average offense and average defense.
    Not great defense and no offense.
    or average offense and no defense.
     

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