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Morey - Words vs Actions

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, May 24, 2010.

  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!
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    Bosh as a leader = low level playoff team at best.

    Next.

    DD
     
  2. SamFisher

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    Aaron Brooks as a leader = Lottery season
     
  3. ASidd_1990

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    Well, the Raptors never surrounded him with the type of role players that Houston has to offer.

    Bosh is a leader and will guide us to the promise land, whether you like it or not.

    BTW, why are you so against aquiring Bosh? We will have to give up some peices, but who cares. It's Chris "Freakin" Bosh! Arguably the best powerfoward in the league!
     
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    True, look what happened when Brooks was our supposed leader this season.
     
  5. Mr. Clutch

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    Gasol and Garnett never got anywhere without help. Even Kobe sucked after Shaq left until the Lakers got Gasol. And look at how mediocre Dwayne Wade's teams are.

    Put Bosh on Houston and we'll see something great next year.
     
  6. DaDakota

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    You guys are missing the point, getting Bosh would be great, as long as you are not giving up anyone from our core group of players.


    Well, got to have a healthy Yao....if you replace Brooks with Bosh you get the same results.

    Come on, you should be smarter than that.

    DD
     
  7. ASidd_1990

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    Can you please elaborate on who our core group of players are?

    And please don't say Jordan Hill, Chase Budinger, or Aaron Brooks.
     
  8. DaDakota

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    Really? Promised land?

    Come on....what makes Bosh such a great example of leadership and basketball ability?

    If you can get close to the performance out of Scola for half the price, you can then sign someone else to help make the team better....

    LOL - pass, if you are going to put idiotic limitations on it, and show a distinct lack of understanding how important good young talent is...then what is the point?

    Brooks = budding star PG whose speed is a mismatch every single night
    Cbud = a very athletic SG/SF with a very high BBall IQ
    Hill = Uber quick PF - a very rare commodity.

    DD
     
  9. ASidd_1990

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    C'Mon man, you can't be serious! A Bosh/Yao combo is a 100x better than a Brooks/Yao combo.

    Bosh is flat out better at his position than Brooks. Bosh is a top 5 powerfoward while Brooks doesn't even crack the top 10 in point guards.
     
  10. DaDakota

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    Step back and try to think a little bit bigger, consider the entire roster when making an argument.

    There is more to this than just a 1 to 1 comparison, it is about the overall team, contracts, and chemistry.

    Scola was a 19-9 guy as a starter, so you are going to pay someone $10 million more PER YEAR for 6 points and 2 rebounds?

    DD
     
  11. Mr. Clutch

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    A big part of that trade will be the picks from the Knicks. If the Knicks don't sign LeBron, those picks shoot up in value.

    Scola and Battier will probably be part of the package.
     
  12. DaDakota

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    See that would be a deal I could get behind........

    or

    Scola and Trevor etc...

    That is not robbing Peter to pay Paul.

    DD
     
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    So what your saying is that a full training camp, preseason and rigours of a 82 game season, flights to different cities, and hotel accomodations would not increase the chemistry between Bosh and the rest of the Rockets?

    It's not like were trading for him at the deadline halfway through the season like Martin, were getting him way before the season even starts.
     
  14. LongTimeFan

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    People who believe Morey actually uses "diversion" tactics should be filed under the same category as ToyCent and his conspiracy theories. I mean, wake up DD! Artest, Kevin Martin, Rudy, Rubio, Amare, Courtney Lee.. any guy Morey has pursued hard enough we have found out about it. Sure, there will always be deals that you didn't expect and materialize quickly, but Morey has never "hidden" who he's going after. Hell, this off-season he's gone on twitter and basically asked all Rocket fans to help him recruit Bosh!

    And stand pat? Really? I thought you were more knowledgeable than that. Standing pat would be the WORST thing we could do -- we need to add some fire power. Whether that be Bosh, Amare, or trading up for Cousins.. we need something .

    Standing pat and not being active is how you get your video game concepts "stolen".. we need action! Results!

    http://www.Houston4Bosh.com -- it's about time you guys got involved in the solution instead of sitting around on your hands not wanting to disrupt "chemistry".
     
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    You absolutely want to add to that, but adding from the 14th pick likely won't do that. Its the very reason why I repeatedly questioned why we were not giving CBud and Hill major minutes and why Battier and Hayes were seeing any minutes at all. We should have been playing the young guys we had and phasing out the guys that will likely not play major roles in our future runs. No matter now, we are where we are, and the only way to ADD is to move some of what we have...unless you truly believe Brooks will develop into a two-way beast.

    I hope you're wiser than that, seeing as how there may have NEVER been a slight-framed, undersized point guard surrounded by scrappy role players that has EVER led his team to a championship. Parker had HOFers around him. Zeke, the same. Why fly in the face of history, hoping for the miraculous, when there may be a legitimate opportunity to move some of your pieces whilst maintaining the majority of your core and acquiring a "Lead Dog"?
     
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    Haha, dude that was a low blow!
     
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    As i stated in DD's thread on whether bosh is a franchise player or not. As a franchise player you should be able to take a sack of potatoes to the playoffs inthe east. People are acting like there isnt talent in toronto and thats wrong in so many ways. Yao and bosh together is as bad as yao and mcgrady. The rox will have 2 max players who couldnt lead a john to the bedroom with a prostitute.
     
  18. LongTimeFan

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    Ok, let's assume you're correct that Bosh is no Lebron/Wade. So what? Did McGrady and Yao ever have Aaron Brooks, Kevin Martin, Ariza, Budinger, etc. to work with? The common theme for all those Yao-McGrady teams was that we didn't have enough help around them.

    Think about the present now. Morey has built a team with all this help and no superstar. Adding Bosh will be nothing like McGrady/Yao because a) Bosh doesn't get injured near as much as either of those two, b) our role players on this team vs. the past era's are significantly better than anything we've had in the past.

    So no, Bosh is not going to take a team of underachievers and make them a title contender. But he will take a team that needs one more piece to get over the hump and put them over that hump.
     
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    After dealing with McGrady and the "great stats but no wins or toughness" type of mentality I'll be surprised if he signs Bosh. Not for that much money.
     
  20. DaDakota

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    So what was your username before being banned previously?

    DD
     

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