Morey usually fixes his mistakes, do you still want him as your GM?

So you're saying that even Golden State couldn't win the title last year () because they didn't have centers who can hit the 3 to space the floor on offense, and then adequately defend guards on the perimeter? They needed switchers and shooters, right?

Sounds reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally familiar.

 

We ALL know Morey would have a championship last year were it not for the rigged azz officiating - even with CP's hammy we were rolling and well the mighty warriors STILL needed help and the rigging err help came

 

TBH, Ryno wasn't handled very well.

he was a great player to have during the regular season, but would always be useless in the playoffs.

we eventually turned Ryno into Iman Shumpert, but lost out on Ariza and Luc prior to this because of cap space issues from giving CP a max contract and keeping Capela on a team-friendly contract.

having Iman/CP/Capela to help Harden in the playoffs can justify the cost and the apparent exhaustion of the cap table, but it remains to be seen and this year's playoffs look even more challenging.

 

GS is clearly broken down. Give the credits to owners/GMs of East Big 4. They look better than any team in the west because
1. East big 4 have great rookie contracts
Raptors:
OG Anunoby ---- 23th pick
Siakam ----- 27th pick
2. Obviously they want to pay luxury taxes.

 

I am saying every GM makes mistakes.
GS GM is not fixing the same problems last year. If Iguodala or Boogie were injured. Rockets or Raptors will beat them.
It would be a big mistake to fire Morey.
It's clearly a mistake by not trading for Tobias Harris last week in term of winning championships.
Harris salary is 14.8 million this year.

 

and the spineless ones, such as tinman, are too afraid to call out Alexander and Morey;
so they resort to convenient scapegoating

 

Thread title and poll are confusing. I voted based on title, oh well!

Morey is one of the best GM in the league and the best GM in Rockets history. We still haven’t won a championship yet but if not for last year injury or ref bias we would have been praising Morey. There is so much that he can do with the limitations of the owner and availability of trades.

 

Even if we didn't have Ryno, we wouldn't give Ariza $15M. We would give him $8M at the most.

 

I love how threads like this, exist. It's similar to the "Fire MDA" threads that pop up every now and then.

My reply is: who would you rather hire? It's so easy to let someone go, but you have to already have an agreement with another candidate for the job before letting Morey go. Who, out there, would be as good or better than Morey?

This needs to be highlighted more.

Title and poll question are two completely different stances. It's so easy to pick the answer to the thread title without reading the poll question.

OP with the trickery of the week.

 

why is @tinman starting Jeremy Lin threads in the GARM?

 

a hard no for me once this summer and the fact that we always trade our 1st for some players that dont help and giving away picks sorry hard no

 

Is Morey perfect? No. But its incredibly easy to make anyone look incompetent when you highlight their flaws alone and attribute their success to luck and/or ineptitude by others. As I'll demonstrate below:

Ainge: 5th and 6th picks turned into Jeff Green and Marcus Smart when Joakim Noah and Julius Randle were available, Then traded pre-ACL tear Kendrick Perkins for Jeff Green in a trade that arguably made both teams worse. Only successful because of a magic fluke trade provided by an incompetent GM and owner in BRK. Still riding off the coattails of unintentionally tanking thanks to an injury into trading for two all-stars. Drafted ZERO all-stars.

Meyers/West: Drafted Ekpe Udoh over Paul George and Gordon Hayward, only successful thanks to injuries to star players of their own (low-balling Steph Curry's second contract) and others (Combined eight injured all-stars on opposing teams during their title runs). Relied on a once-in-a-lifetime spike in the salary cap to free a max contract slot.

Ujiri: Terrence Ross over Andre Drummond, Bruno Caboclo over Clint Capela, one conference finals appearance in 11 years, the largest city in the NBA yet can't land any major free agents, Threw away half of the team's youth for what may amount to a rental.

Presti: Traded James Harden instead of Serge Ibaka, got extremely lucky in the draft by receiving 3 top 4 picks in a row, with all the major busts taken by teams ahead of him. Failed to surround KD and Russ with high-quality role players before KD's contract was up. Wasted the prime of two MVPs.

 

we don't know that, and we also don't know how much less Ariza would've been willing to take to stay here.

simply put, we missed out on key players with cap space issues.

 

Morey is 100% responsible for James Harden being in a Rockets uniform during the greatest offensive streak since Wilt scored 50 a game in the sixties.

Morey is 100% responsible for putting together the team that gave us the greatest regular season in Rockets history.

Morey put us 1 win away from knocking off the greatest dynasty in NBA history

As an NBA fan, I don't know what more you can ask for in a GM. Fans of every team except the Warriors would trade places with us in an instant in terms of the product we've seen on the floor in the past 2 years.

Hell yes I still want him as our GM.

 

We do know that; there is not a version of Ariza that was ever worth $15M a year. His highest annual salary before Sun's crazy offer was from us at $8.5M.

We didn't miss out on Ariza. He never gave us a chance to negotiate.

 

This user is apparently saying Morey's big mistake was signing Lin with the poison pill contract? Maybe it was, but you have to remember the context.

The Rockets had been stuck in mediocrity for years. Accumulating assets, trying to lure a big name free agent but missing. The reports were that Alexander didn't want to tank and rebuild so we were stuck for years getting around the 14th draft pick- too bad to really compete for anything but too good to really rebuild.
The offseason that we signed Lin, it seemed like the Rockets were finally going to allow themselves to rebuild. They were almost unanimously picked to finish at the bottom of the Western Conference. The reasoning was that Lin was young, had showed some promise in his brief stint with the Knicks, and he would be someone that would help sell tickets while we were going through a rebuild. I don't think that line of reasoning is too far off for where the Rockets were at the time.

But of course, that all changed when we were able to trade for James Harden and finally get the star player More had been searching for, what, 2 or 3 days before the season started that year?
Hindsight is 20/20 of course, but we had no way to know we would be able to pull off one of the best trades of the last decade when we gave Lin that deal. I don't blame Morey too much for that

 

Green fills this role for Warriors.

 

The board here is ecstatic about the prospect of having a bunch of expiring contracts in 2019-2020, Ariza would've been that guy today, this season, that we can use to pick up players in a trade. In hindsight, this would've been a great thing to get Ariza on a 1-year 15 mil deal, would provide a lot of flexibility in the off-season.

You're right that he didn't give us a chance to negotiate. But that's not the whole point of my argument.

Again, I've said this in other threads, versatile 3nD wing players, especially someone like Ariza who can guard anywhere from 1, 2, 3, and even 4 on a small ball lineup, are a marketable commodity today.

The point is we NEED cap space to sign these types of versatile wing players. A player like Ariza are all over the NBA, sure, but we can't get em because of our cap space and how players like that have become sought-after. When Ariza leaves the team, you have to fill the gap someway and we were just terrible at it.

Just look at what we did in the off-season, picking up Melo, Ennis, and MCW, we took small gambles hoping for a payout rather than going all-out for depth at the wing. And then the hail mary attempts to get Butler mid-season...

I get that Capela and CP were necessary, but Ryno was pretty much at the center of all our cap space concerns. If we had more cap room, I'd say we can feel more confident that we can nab better players. I'm happy we got Shump, but only because we translated Ryno into him... That's a very low bar for the kind of GM that DM is.

 

I want to see the Venn diagram of fans who think Morey (a) was an idiot to pay Lin based on 26 good games and (b) is an idiot not to pay House based on 25 good games.