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Morey say's "GM's calling about Luther Head"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by REEKO_HTOWN, Dec 3, 2008.

  1. Sherlock

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    It would NOT surprise me that Tracy is being encouraged to take some time off, so they can showcase Head. This is the easy part of our schedule, and a good time for Tracy to rest anyway.

    Obviously, Luther's the man out, in order to bring in Deke, and Deke said he expected to be back around December 15. As long as he plays well over the next few weeks, he will probably get traded for a good draft pick or cheap rookie to get under the luxury tax.

    The only problem, is that Luther has figured this out in the past, and usually didn't step up to the plate, to increase his trade value, or so it seems, every time we want to trade him. He does like it here, but maybe if he went to a lesser team, he could play more, and increase his value for his next contract. So, maybe this time will be different.

    ... but yes, this does seem like posturing and negotiating, like with Landry. Morey is a good trader, IMHO.
     
  2. joesr

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    If I am horrible then so are you. If you are horrible to think that its only Moreys job to over evaluate then you dont even belong in the business world. Its other GM to undervalue to get most for their trade which is what I am doing. I am playing the other side. Simple and if you dont see that your a failure. Its easy to see you put some value and I dont. Its easy top see more Rockets fans see my point of view just from reading this thread and the hundred before it.

    You are acting as if there is only one side to business and its the side your on and there is where you are a fool. There is two. the buying and selling. we are evidently on the selling side but the buying side is evidently trying to undersize Heads value which again I will point out a vast majority is on just remove him side.
     
  3. joesr

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    This is exactly what happened in my 2k9 Association. He got major minutes with his new team and his new contract was ridiculous (he even made it to the 2k11 All Stars).


    But none the less if we are building a contending team today we cant wait till tomorrow if you get my drift.
     
  4. Noob Cake

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    Time to sell Luther after he pull off a couple of consecutive 20 pt games when TMac is back.
     
  5. Angkor Wat

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    I love how people think they know exactly what Morey is doing. Guys talking like they've been GMs before. For all we know, Morey could be telling the truth about keeping Head.
     
  6. joesr

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    you know what I didnt even both to read your post but now that I did I have more nit picking.

    you used a 24th pick on Head and want better or equal. I as a buyer would tell you I can get better with my own 24th pick (Look at AB at a higher 26th just for an easy look but there are many more even in 2nd round).

    I as the buyer would undersize your sell. I am not going to look at what you paid but what HE GIVES NOW. I am sorry but Heads stock has fallen. If your telling me today would use your 24th on Head then you sir are the horrible business man. A failure at that one too.

    I would consider giving 2 2nd round draft picks but no way on hell a 1st round. He isnt worth it. He hasnt been worth it. As soon as Barry's hands heal up he wont get PT. Wafer is equal to Head if not better with his height and better penetrating skills.

    Other buyers will do research if they are good business mans but you would know nothing about that just talking about selling only and if you talk on the buying side your horrible in your own opinion.
     
  7. DaDakota

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    An interesting take, except that management was surprised by Tmac saying he was taking the time off.

    But, not a bad thing to do, IMO....showcasing Head that is...

    DD
     
  8. jVgOwnsYou

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    Head is pretty good depth for the money he makes. Not too many guys that make under 2 mill this year that can score 15-20 points on a given night.
     
  9. jpapi0022

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    Key word: Might. I really hope he does though. Even if he does suit up sad to say he won't play. I expect him to get the Dorsey treatment.

    As for Luther Head I wonder what other teams are offering for Morey to turn them down. Luther is a good player and the NBA is business but he shouldn't have that much value.
     
  10. jump shooter

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    Buy low and sell high. Uhh, didn't Head just dump a 21 spot on the Spurs the other night. His value from a performance basis ain't going to get much higher than that. Trading him right now and instead of the trade deadline might not yield the rockets as much, but I wouldn't know because I'm not privy to Morey's phone conversations with other teams. But I agree with you in that Morey has shown in the past that he plays a pretty mean game of poker when it comes to NBA trading.
     
  11. Baqui99

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    I hear someone offered Morey a year's supply of cafe lattes.
     
  12. DcProWLer277

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    Head is in a contract year, he HAS to showcase the best of his abilities to get a decent contract.
     
  13. tomjc

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    OHHHHHHHHHHHH............... so THAT's why Head's getting playing time. Props to management.
     
  14. Problem-Chyld

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    no for a second round but if he can somehow pull out a first round then id do it
     
  15. tcadriel

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    Head is definitely worth a first round pick. Using AB as a example is a poor example and a good example.

    The Rockets picking Brooks was good planning AND knowing a diamond in the rough. Good example.

    ..and also a poor example in the fact that you never truly know how a player will react when they make the jump to the NBA. There are many bust coming into the NBA and with Head teams know he can compete and what he brings to the table. The draft is full of unknowns, and not many come with Team USA on their resume'. Remember Sam Bowie? Bust! It's kind of like rolling the dice, you never know what your gonna get. How about Greg Oden? Bust?

    The fact is the Rockets have the asset and their are many teams interested. So if you undervalue HEAD the next GM might not. When you have a player that you want and you don't know what other teams are willing play, you have to ask "what am I willing to pay?" This sets the price point and each team has different goals. You what you might pay, will be different than someone else.

    As good of a negotiator Morey is, getting a first round pick for Head shouldn't be hard.
     
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    with tmac hurt, barry hurt, and Shane hurt the team would be foolish to trade away their new starter unless it's for another starter and that's not the plan. The plan is to trade luther for a trade exception with no contract back to get under the luxury cap and a 2nd round pick.
     
  17. PDJACK7

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    I know alot of you do not like Head (i do):D. But jokes aside he is real good during the season we just can't trust him in the playoffs. He is great value to us because we all know that Tmac will miss 30-40% of the games and I feel Head can step in and help us win some games without Tmac. So unless some great deal comes our way we should keep him and hope everyone is healthy during the playoffs so he doesn't have to play.
     
  18. Marsarinian

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    Precisely.
     
  19. RocketsPimp

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    This has Morey-eel written all over it.
     
  20. Ismail

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    Would management ever admit to knowing about it? That would discredit a doctor and make us everyone suspicious. Making it look like it was his decision separates the organization from his decision to try to get better. Not to build some sort of conspiracy, but this theory fits well with the situation. But, I don't think the Rockets, or McGrady, would do that.

    In regards to what Morey said, I think "GMs" is really one GM, and that he's just driving up Head's price. If Morey thinks the offer is too low, then it probably is. He did manage Ron Artest out of a mid to low first rounder and an aging Bobby Jackson.
     

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