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Morey: Right Now nobody is Untouchable

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by HowsMyDriving, Jan 4, 2010.

  1. chenjy9

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    Meh... either way Yao seems to be untouchable, which is unfortunate. I wonder if his loyalty will allow him to sign for less since his performance deserves less.
     
  2. Lonestar

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    Strongly agree with u on this post
     
  3. vlaurelio

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    countrymen usually get embarassed/don't support you if you are a repeated failure
     
  4. chenjy9

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    I wouldn't go so far as to call him a repeated failure. He is simply not worth his paycheck considering how injury prone he is, which hurts the Rockets on many different levels.
     
  5. BetterThanEver

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    Yao needs to be traded.

    There is no team in history that has won a championship with their #1 player sitting out the playoffs due to injury.
     
  6. badgerfan

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    Every time I see a quote like this I have to wonder how long the poster's been watching basketball, especially with a name like "chenjy9".

    You can legitimately argue that Yao's health problems present serious questions as to the long time viability of using him as a franchise player. You can legitimately argue that he's got his weaknesses in terms of agility and mobility.

    But anybody who knows anything about basketball should realize that Yao is something special. Anybody that big with that kind of shooting touch is remarkable. How many centers take their teams' penalty free throws? For his height he is remarkably agile and he's an above average passer--for the position he plays he's much better than above average.

    The knock against Yao isn't that he can't dominate. It's that he doesn't do it on a consistent basis.
     
  7. chenjy9

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    I've watched the Rockets play ever since the early 1990's thank you very much. Yao has a great skillset for a guy his size. I completely agree with you. Let me ask you this now? How useful is his shooting touch, agility, and passing if he is not playing? Let me give you a hint, not useful at all. Guess what he is doing right now? Not playing and therefore, not useful. I'll be more than happy to admit the following:

    - Yao is a great shooter
    - Yao is very agile for his size
    - Yao is a good passer
    - Yao is a classy dude

    However, my statement still stands. If he cannot consistently dominate and stay healthy, I don't want him on the team unless he takes a pay cut.
     
  8. Lonestar

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    Thank GOD. You are not DM, and even more not Les
     
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    Am I the only one who finds it funny that this guy is offering a very apt description of himself? Yes, you are the "very dumb troll" rambling on these forums.
     
  10. badgerfan

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    I wouldn't hold my breath. The issue isn't solely what Yao can do--it's also what other teams are willing to pay for the big guy. And my guess is that there are plenty of other teams in the league that would be willing to take a gamble on him under the belief that he could be a major piece in assembling a team that can win everything.

    I also don't see what a propensity for injury has to do with someone being "a big dumb troll".
     
  11. Little Bit

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    Wow....your entire statement is so ignorant I don't know where to begin..... :rolleyes:
     
  12. T_Man

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    You sir are my #1 fan....
     
  13. chenjy9

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    That is my opinion of him, will the big and dumb part. His face when hes mad reminds me of a wishing troll actually.
     
  14. chenjy9

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    You have your beliefs, I have mine. You are welcome to to call me whatever you want, but I honestly believe the Rockets are better of trading Yao for someone who can stay productive more consistently.
     
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    I keep telling you guys....

    Morey is looking at the past and the future and this trade with McGrady is just not a 1 for 1 deal, Morey is looking at all situations.

    Some of you have a lot of hope for Yao, but history does not sit on his side with players with bad feet...

    Bill Walton
    Sam Bowie
    Andrew Toney

    To name a few, Yao had a hard time adjusting to the fast pace motion offense last year when he was healthy, so there's no way in Heck he can keep up with these guys and this style of basketball. Most of you tend to forget how frustrated he was last year with the motion offense and it wasn't fully or half way implmented.

    It will be a huge adjustment for everyone with Yao on this team and not all in a good way.... Landry would not be able to operate down low with Yao clogging the lane... Brooks and Lowery would not be able to drive the lane very freely...

    But the major part of the adjustment is the fact that this is no longer T-Mac or Yao's team and listen to how Morey address the question on if they can play this way in the playoffs... Actually go back and read a lot of Morey statements especially with dealing with T-Mac.. Makes you wonder if he;s just talking about T-Mac.
     
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    Moving Yao might not be a bad idea, probably won't happen though. I wonder if he would be willing to opt-out this summer so the Rockets can restructure and lengthen his contract. Something like 3yr at 36mill. That would go a ways in clearing space for a big FA this summer.
     
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    When Adelman first got to Houston he advocated moving Yao out to the top of the key--not for every play, but for some. That's going to clear some space out for the other guys to operate. He also talked about how the motion offense isn't actually all that fast paced and how he believed Yao could still be effective in it. It's not run and gun.

    And from what I saw there are a lot of pieces of the motion offense that helped Yao more than hindered him last year. Having two or three guys mugging him on defense isn't going to be an option when the rest of the Rockets are cutting hard to the basket.
     
  18. badgerfan

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    Yao's basketball IQ is actually pretty good, so I'd have to question why "dumb" applies and what any of that has to do with his injuries, which are apparently your big beef with him.
     
  19. pdewalt

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    Let it go. You made a poor assumption which she/he corrected you on. Yao is an often injured Star and she/he has an issue with that. That is a legitimate grievance in which no further justification is necessary.
     
  20. chenjy9

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    I consider Yao stupid because he does not utilize his strengths intelligently. At 7'6 with his agility and court vision, he should be a lot more productive than he actually is. With his skill set, he should be averaging more than 20 points and 10 boards, especially if opponents are fronting him. He's actually less than that, but I will round up. If the guy is in front Yao, that means no one is stopping him from getting the board. He has trouble positioning, has bad defensive tendencies, and plays as soft as tofu. You are right though, my main beef with him is his injuries, but someone with his intelligence, skill set and size, should perform a lot better. He currently is not worth 16 mil a year and if he is willing to restructure a contract that is appropriate to his actual production, I will be more than happy to take back all the bad things I said about him.
     

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