according to the list and your # (i didn't check), rox will send out 21.1 mil so we can take back 26.475 mil. if i am right about max contract #, bosh will start at 16.8 mil. plus hedo 9.8 mil. we actually take back 26.6 mil. you see, we take more than we can. the trade won't work until rox add one more player.
Hedo wouldn't be too bad. I think Hedo will play better with Brooks as his PG, he'll know what his role and duties are here. Jack, Calderon, and Hedo don't fit. Too many playmakers on that team and then no one wants to be the selfish teammate. When all three are on the court, it's not good. Hedo began the season injured, an injury picked up from playing for Turkey? So he was never off to a good start. He'd also add some go to pick and roll moves to the starting line up. This is something Brooks just isn't comfortable pulling off.
Git er done Morey! If we get Bosh, I really really like our chances for a championship. Imagine the starting lineup of: AB Martin Ariza Bosh Yao 4 out of the 5 guys on there are all stars or borderline all stars.
I totally agree. Morey's top priority is making sure Bosh really ... really... wants to come here. Then that makes the dealing with Toronto alot more friendly to our current roster. The salaries have to come within 25% of another so we wouldnt have to give over the full 20 million. You are looking loosing 2 of 3 out of Ariza, Jefferries, and Battier, one young prospect in Hill/Budinger/Taylor and one or two draft picks. Im hoping it is just Jefferies/ Battier/ Taylor/ 1 pick, have them cut Battier, sign back for vet minimum. Wishful thinking I know, but Morey sent Walsh home crying so lets hope he continues his hot hand.
Hedo is shooting 41%, 11.3 points per game. Great offense? Chase has a great chance to better that production next two seasons. Ariza is much better than Hedo.
i agree on your first point. bosh is the key. if he wants to be here, we have more than 80% chance. otherwise, no chance at all. but my question is what is our selling point. how do you convince bosh to come here? w/o yao, this team is just a little bit better than .500. the best is a playoff team but exits in 1st round. do you think bosh will come to this team w/o any superstar? ok, we do have yao but more than 80% fans on this board don't have confidence yao will be healthy in the next season and will stay with rox for a few more years. how can you believe bosh has confidence on yao's injury? fans are so hype on getting bosh but we all need to face the reality. hope morey can show yao's progress (which no one knows) to bosh to convince him yao will be back next season at 100%.
jopatmc, no flame here, I just think Hedo has cashed it in after he signed his deal. With the Rockets needing defense, I would rather have Ariza right now. I believe TA will have a very solid year with a healthy Yao and possibly Bosh to play off of. Once we got Martin it really seemed to lessen Ariza's burden of having to score, he seemed to relax a bit and let the game come to him. I'm for keeping Ariza if possible.
I'm sure this guy is a poster on these boards, but I like what he had to say... Sell High On Shane Battier One week ago, Kyle Lowry bowled his way towards the basket for a layup. In the process of things, and in the scrum for the loose ball after the miss, Lowry rolled right into the legs of Shane Battier... and promptly "sprained" Shane's MCL. Shortly thereafter, the Rockets announced that he was out at least 10 days. Battier then took to facebook earlier this week after consulting with his doctors. The prognosis quickly changed to "it may take 4 weeks to heal. Bummer." ('Bummer' being Shane's word of choice, but I've been prone to saying exactly the same thing in situations like that.) Now, the Rockets have exactly 10 games left to play. They stand at 36-36 as of this writing. Putting them 7.5 games out of the 8th spot in the Western Conference playoff race. Now, that doesn't make them mathematically eliminated, but I do not fear a "Dewey defeats Truman"-level comeback here, so I'm gonna go ahead and call the Rockets' chances of making the playoffs a precise 0.0%. The good guys are lottery bound. Given that Battier joins a walking wounded list of Yao Ming, Jared Jeffries and Kevin Martin... not to mention whatever is ailing Trevor Ariza, Kyle Lowry and Jordan Hill these days... do we really bother putting Shane Battier back into the active rotation this season? Other than making a bunch of fans happy, would it really benefit the Rockets to make Shane suit up again? (I'm not talking about karaoke, Battier had better suit up for karaoke a couple times this summer!) There's no need for Shane to prove his worth or his toughness. Everyone knows he is a gamer and a professional in every sense of the word. And he's the only Duke player other than Grant Hill I can tolerate. So there shoudn't be a personal need for Battier to play, either. Which means Shane is almost certainly "done for the season"... but what about next year? For the 2010/2011 season, Shane Battier is to cost the Rockets a cool $7.35M. But it will be the last year of his contract... he's a free agent as of July 2011. Moreover, Shane will be 33 years old before the start of the 2011/2012 season. He's not exactly a spring chicken anymore. Given that Shane's career is built on hustle and defense and being in the right place at the right time, the simple process of "losing a step" will massively detract from his on-court value. I hate to say it, but it's true. The Rockets already have a "Battier clone" of sorts in the form of Trevor Ariza. And Trevor is getting paid a healthy $6.7M next season already. With the Rockets bringing Yao back and having already publiclly stated a desire to re-sign both Luis Scola and Kyle Lowry as restricted free agents this summer... Is this the year that the Rockets trade Shane Battier? Both Shane and Jared Jeffries will go into next season with expiring contracts. Shane, however, still holds more value for his on-court ability. Or did we already forget the "No-Stats All Star" column? I am sure Daryl Morey is like 12 steps ahead of me here, but wouldn't this be the best time for the Rockets to sell-high on Battier? Or do they keep him around for one more year to make a Championship run with Yao, ABZ, Speed Racer and Scola? I guess it depends on what the summer trade market offers us. Once the Rockets traded Carl Landry, we all realized that Morey is the anti-Purpura -- he will trade away players he drafted/groomed. Our resident boy genius may not like it, but in the end he'll do what is best for the team. It's all about winning. Which I think we can all appreciate. All this is just a long-winded way of me asking: Has Shane Battier already played his last game as a Houston Rocket?
In no form or fashion do I want Hedo on this team, I'd rather re-sign Scola and forget about Bosh if it meant Hedo has to go with him.
He did cash it in in Toronto. Almost as badly as Vince Carter did. But plenty of guys cash it in on losing teams and leave it all on the floor on winning teams. Doesn't speak well for their leadership character but this is professional basketball. These guys make a lot of money. How many times have we seen talented, underperforming players get traded to or signed by teams like the Lakers and all of a sudden, they become world beaters? Go down the list. Bob McAdoo, Mychael Thompson, Dennis Rodman, etc. etc. etc. Hedo will be a different player in this team. And that is the worst case scenario. Best case scenario would be to flip him to Portland for Rudy Fernandez and Andre Miller's expiring. Now you've got Miller's expiring plus other assets to go after another multitalented player at the trade deadline.
WOW, you are really talking out of your ass, you must be Turkish or something, I can't believe anyone would actually believe Turkaglo > Ariza. Ariza is great third or fourth option on a team, once the Rockets got Kevin Martin he showed us exactly his worth. Hedo requires too much time on the ball to be a good player within the Adelman system, plus I don't think we need another weak link on D, because he would be exactly that. Hedo is not good enough to deserve the ball in his hands... that's the truth.
Hedo already was a good player within Adelman's system. And he was good enough to deserve the ball in his hands for the last shot on a team that went to the Eastern Conference Finals last year. That said, he's had a horrible year.. but the poster you quoted has a point. Hedo is a better player than Ariza. If you'd prefer Ariza because of youth or contract status, that is a different argument. Skill wise, Hedo is definitely the superior player.
I think a Bosh + Hedo/Calderon is unlikely. The Rockets would have to send at least $21M for this to go through. The team would get gutted. Of course, it's different if all Toronto wants for Hedo/Calderon is a pure salary dump: Hill + Ariza + 14th pick + NY's 2011 & 2012 picks + Jeffries + Andersen + Hayes + Taylor + Harris/Johnson (non-guaranteed) Toronto are taking back $5M less worth of salary so they can afford to buyout or simply cut a number of the players if they choose to. The Rockets could then try to dump Hedo/Calderon to the Pacers for Dunleavy's expiring contract. Jack, Calderon, Banks Weems, Taylor, Belinelli Ariza, Jeffries, DeRozan Bargnani, Hayes, Evans Hill, Andersen, Dorsey Brooks, Lowry, (Dunleavy) Martin, Dunleavy Battier, Budinger Scola, (MLE/LLE/trade), (Leunen?) Bosh, Yao
