I have to agree with those talking about Bosh not garnering as much back in trade as some people have posted. If Bosh chooses Houston, Toronto has no leverage whatsoever. Their only move at that point is to get something for him and I would be fairly surprised if that's anything more than Hill, expiring salary match, a pick, and cash. Of course that's IF Bosh expressly chooses Houston. If Bosh were to give Toronto a list of 4 teams or something like that, which seems improbable, then it could get ugly on the trade front. Anyway, the prospect of rotating Bosh, Scola, and Yao with a backcourt of Brooks and Martin firing from the outside, Ariza/Battier playing solid D, Lowry causing havoc off the bench, and Budinger playing solid minutes off the bench is damn exciting to think about. It's going to be a LONG month and half here.
LOL, this year is a little different than previous years, there are quite a few teams looking to make a big splash, they've cleared up salary cap space just so they can sign one of the big three. Greater demand leads to higher price, simple as that.
None of those teams have as high quality assets as the Rockets. Plus, we have something no team has, Daryl "The Wizard" Morey!
Not exactly. Once the player decides who he's signing with, there's only one team involved and no one else can drive up the price. Simple as that.
in general, there is no way you can have an equal value trade. if equal, why do you make a trade? when a trade is made, it means both sides get what they want. in this context, you can say it is an equal value trade. now back to the bosh trade issue. there is no secret what rox want and what they can give up. what they did in the regular season is to pile up picks for this summer trade. if a team moves their franchise, most likely it means they are in rebuild mode. for rebuilding, the team is looking for young players, picks, dumping contracts, increasing the space under the cap. if raptors IS in rebuilding mode, rox do have a few things. one of them is pick. you can treat jordan hill as a first pick (8th over all last year). plus, we have this first round pick, and next year first round pick (could be very high due to the deal with ny). those are not garbage. ariza is not star but he is still young and most likely will be a very good defense player. plus, he might be a very good fit for Jerry Colangelo's raptors (run & gun). you can't say they are a pack of garbage. bosh and raptors have similar leverage. they have to make a deal first btw them. then other teams bosh picks can get into the picture. if you think bosh only care about 30 mil extra not teams, why doesn't he just stay in raptors? clearly raptors can't hijack him cos the extra 30 mil. here is my thought, raptors will do their best to get as much as possible from one of teams bosh picks. the list of teams is critical to raptors. it decides how much they can get from S&T since bosh is gone in one or other way.
why is not possible? why do you think bosh must pick rox only? tell me what the selling point rox has?
Just a thought but wouldn't it be funny if we do indeed get Bosh, Toronto includes Joey Dorsey as a filler? LOL!
He doesn't have to pick any team but he's going to choose one. Once he's done that, there's no one else to bid up the value of a trade like there would be in a normal trade scenario.
Bosh will cost something. In a sign and trade the raptors will have to take on 15 million in salary, they can let him walk for free. We have to offer something that will make Toronto willing to spend that 15 million Jordan Hill Knicks Picks Cash Expiring Contracts That probably should be enough. Maybe have to thrown in Budinger.
i don't think he targets only one team. he must give raptors a list of teams he is ok to be traded to and let raptor work the deal with one of them.
Hill is included in any deal, obviously. I'm willing to let go of Chase OR Shane. But in no way, 2 out of Chase, Shane, Ariza. People shouldn't be so quick to give up on Ariza. He played great playing 3rd fiddle to AB and Martin. Just think how great he'll be with Yao/Bosh/Martin. Though it'd be tough to see Brooks go, I think he might be included. Only for the fact that his rookie deal is about to be up, and the Rockets would be way over the cap for years with a resigned Yao, newly signed Bosh, Martin and a show me the $ Aaron Brooks
raptors doesn't need to take back 15 mil. they just need to take back 13.5 mil. btw, we only have one knicks' pick (2012 #1 protected). i don't think your list is attractive to raptors.
Agreed, Ariza played great behind AB, Martin, and Scola, as the 4th option. Loved him in that role. Don't dislike him at all. But if we have to give him up along expirings and a first rounder and we have to take Hedo along with Bosh, we are still better off. Hedo is a better basketball player, a more skilled player, a more efficient player than Ariza. He's another guy on the floor that can create better, can shoot better, and can see the floor better than Ariza.
since you like ariza, it makes me think raptors like him too. if ariza IS what you see, raptors most likely will demand ariza. if rox reject, raptors can turn to other teams bosh doesn't mind to traded to.
I don't think any of the big free agents are gonna sign with the Knicks, so their 2011 pick is gonna be pretty high.
rox got 2012 knicks' first round pick (either top 5 protected or top 1 protected. i can't remember which one). then like you said, rox have the right to swap rox own first pick with knicks's first pick (either top 1 protected or top 5 protected. can't remember which one) in 2011. i am not sure what you mean we have two knicks first round picks.
2012 Pick from Knicks 2011 Pick from Rockets, THEN SWAP IT WITH kNICKS That's 2 Picks Our record will probably be a lot better that the knicks next year, so they'll want to swap with NY.
