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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ooliverb1, Jun 14, 2007.

  1. Streets 01

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    Thanks for the recap.

    The cons of this are that Snyder and Span are spoken highly of (Spanoulis especially), and it seems like management wants those guys back. That sucks because they were two main pieces in the rumored Artest deal.

    A big pro is that all signs point to a humbled, in-shape Bonzi to return.
     
  2. alex_jr

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    Bad example... I meant that assuming we get a good PF soon (I doubt Hayes or Reed will be our starter) we are gonna be way crowded in the 4 spot unless:
    a) Battier plays the 3 only
    b) One of them is on the way out

    I find b more likely and I can't see them not keeping Hayes.

    An equivalent example would be if Reed was a C in which case you'd be certain one of Deke or Jake was not gonna be here next year...
     
  3. duluth111222

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    That, or Morey said those words to the Kings...
     
  4. okierock

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    amen brotha
     
  5. Clutch

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    I really don't know what to make of the Rafer comments at the press conference, nor do I know if you can take the V-Span comments literally...

    ... but yesterday the Rockets acquired a point guard who is definitely going to get time over V-Span, and they have one (Rafer) who will get time over V-Span. Adelman can call V-Span all he wants ... he has to know the Rockets just acquired another player ahead of him in the depth chart.

    Something has to give, in my opinion... either V-Span doesn't come back, or he or Rafer will be traded.
     
  6. texanskan

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    I think the Rockets should keep Rafer and play James in the backcourt with Rafer and at times play him in the backcourt with Span.

    I see Span getting 20 min Rafer getting 25 and James playing around 30.

    JL3 nothing and for some reason if we don't trade Head (we need to trade him no place for that guy) he will only play here and there
     
  7. HillBoy

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    Curious Clutch. Do you think that if Spanoulis does come back he vaults ahead of Alston especially if he can cut out the TOs and start hitting some shots? Rafer simply doesn't appear to be the type of guard Adelman is looking for and to me, that opens the door for Spanoulis to crack the rotation. I'm looking at him as some sort of x-factor next season if you follow my drift. His game is more geared toward setting folks up and passing that is Mike James'.
     
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  8. GATER

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    That's not very realistic given McGrady is the SG and plays mega-minutes. Plus, Snyder and even Wells may be part SG mix. Rafer and V-Span present a logjam regardless of how you spin it.
     
  9. DonkeyMagic

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    I, personally, would try to cut down tmacs minutes at SG.

    Rafer and MJ in the backcourt at the same time will work in certain situations against certain matchups but i wouldnt expect it too much
     
  10. HillBoy

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    Gater, take look at my thoughts on Spanoulis above. As for Tmac, one of the things I want to see is for him to stay at the 3 next season. I feel that's the best postion for him where he'll be most effective. If necessary, Snyder and James should be able to handle the 2 spot with Head (if he's still here) coming off the bench for 3 point shooting. Of course, if Novack has improved his game, he could be counted on for 3 point shooting as well. Your thoughts?
     
  11. DaDakota

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    Everyone knows how I feel about V-Span, so I don't need to go there.


    I sort of agree with Clutch, if you include JL3 in the mix, that is 4 PGs on the team, and that would be one too many.

    At the PC, they said that Rafer was a member of the most highly rated starting 5 in the NBA, which seemed like a non-committal way of saying basically nothing.

    And Morey not mentioning Rafer as being able to create his own shot, and both he and Adelman speaking about V-Span leads me to believe that they are trying to move Rafer, or are not counting on him at all this year.

    Maybe they are thinking of a James/Span PG situation?

    DD
     
  12. ooliverb1

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    What's really confusing is Morey seems to imply Bonzi would be back. Then they have an army of back court players even before Mike James trade:
    Tmac, Head, Bonzi, Rafer, VSpan, Snyder, JLIII... now adding James, that 8 players for the two back court spots!

    That's just way to crowded...
     
  13. HillBoy

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    I think JL3 is a goner. His lack of size is just too much of a detriment. I just never understood why they gave him that contract. I picked up the same vibe as did you on rafer which leads me to theorize that if your boy Spanoulis can get his head right with ball, cut down the TOs and show that he can start hitting some shots he and not Rafer will be in on the PG rotation under Adelman.
     
  14. DaDakota

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    That is what I think too, and honestly I am getting a little tired of hearing about V-Span's tempermental nature.

    He needs to reach down between his legs, see if he has a pair and get his butt back to the US to work on his game.

    He had a rough year - Ok, we get that ! But the way the situation has broken could not be better for him.......someone needs to slap him on the head and tell him THIS IS HIS CHANCE, because if he wusses out, he will always regret it.

    I understand his angst, he probably got told he would play by CD and then after signing clearly felt shafted......OK, we get that......it happens, but there is an opportunity here now, he needs to seize it.

    DD
     
  15. GATER

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    HB -
    We don't agree on much...but when we do... :) .

    Yes, McGrady back to SF...absolutely and without question. And Spanoulis better in RA's system? Quite possibly. It ultimately depends on whether the coaching staff can get VSpan to lean in the direction of Bibby and away from JWill if you catch the inuendo.

    IMHO, a lot of what Adelman will want to accomplish offensively is with dribble penetration. That leaves Alston, Head and Battier out of the equation for the most part.

    The hugely unpopular Wells is a "Wild Card" in all of this. His addition really accents TMac back to SF and throws additional light on PF.
     
  16. DaDakota

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    I agree, we have to keep Tmac at the SF postion, it was clear this year that there are more athletic SGs in the league now, and Tmac would have a bigger advantage at SF.

    Which, IMO, makes Battier the most expendable player on the Rockets, if Tmac is gobbling up SF minutes and we have Bonzi/Snyder/Head/James etc at the SG spot, there is no room for Battier.

    We should use his contract (maybe combined with Sura's expiring) and get a quality athletic PF to fill out the roster.

    DD
     
  17. Rocket River

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    Maybe Rafer returns to his AND1 Roots
    would that be more eared toward AdelmanBall

    Rocket RIver
     
  18. Man

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    Boki didn't complain, and now he's doing well in NJ.

    I don't think we need both Bonzi and Snyder..if we keep both, why would we add Artest, too..unless we trade..

    So yeah, no mention of Alston, Yao, Battier, Hayes. Can't talk about everything, though.
     
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    I guess VSpan is having a hard time trusting the Rockets since he has already heard the skit of him getting playing time. I hope he does get the time and the Rockets should hold off on trading him till they can get a good look at him playing Summer league games and some quality NBA games.
     
  20. GATER

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    Adelman Ball = Bibby for JWill :D
     

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