If we trade him thats good, unless we have to take on iguodalas big contract which will almost certainly bring dalembart with it. If we can't find anything decent, and you know morey wouldn't just trade for the hell of it, then we chase him outta houston at the end of the season and have enough to resign scola,lowry, landry, and possibly hayes.
And looking at these mock drafts it seems like this year's draft is filled with PF's which we dont even need. But i dont watch much college basketball to know the true talent level out there. I hope we can stumble upon someone like a Brandon Roy type player IF we are a lottery team. If Memphis doesnt think that Rudy Gay will re-sign with them I think it would be a good possibility that we could be looking at him and Thabeet for T-Mac but I dont know...We'll see what thursday has in store for us Rocket fans.
the more I have time to think on it, the happier I am that we didn't make a trade for Butler, especially if it was going to require us to give up a rotation player or take on Stevenson
If the choices are: Holding on to McGrady's contract and letting it expire. and Making a trade for short term improvements and taking contracts that will cripple the Rockets' ability to compete down the line in return or players that will be on court/locker room problems. I'll take option 1 every time. I'm sure somewhere out there there is a deal that could get them short term improvements. I'm almost equally sure almost all of those deals deals come with a poison pill that will hurt the Rockets in the medium to long term. If anybody thinks Morey has found a deal that he believes is a solid deal but let it pass because he thought he could wring a little more out of someone else, I'm not sure which Daryl Morey it is you've been watching these past couple of years. I don't know what anybody sees that would lead them to believe that Morey is playing games either way. From what I've seen he is one of the most direct GM's around. If McGrady's value has gone up or down in the last week, it wasn't as a result of some back-room scheming by Morey. He is essentially an engineer, not a showman, salesman or huckster.
For that keep saying butler and haywood wouldnt make the rockets champions next yr, i get it, but the bigger is, can the rockets beat dallas out for the division next year adding a 7m player and resigning lowry,scola and yao coming back? I'm not a fatalist, but its foolish to think the rockets are setup to be in a better situation than dallas,la,denver,portland,and even utah. Thats 5 teams who best 2 players are better than the rockets best player. Not to mention their best 2 players 3 yrs from now will still be better than the rockets best to players in that frame. Its easy to say butler is just a good player and he's not elite and i agree, but i would rather have him as a wing next yr than any wing we have now. This team is destined to be a 50 win 5 seed with no chance to win a title. Yall can quote me on that one.
In my opinion if you start making desperate moves because you are worried about keeping up with the Jonses, that is when you start making mistakes that hurt your team down the line. It's in the movies when some guy goes to Vegas, looses a whole bunch of money and in a final move of desperation mortgages his house for a final roll on the roulette wheel. In the movies the guy comes through against astronomical odds, cheating fate and learning a valuable lesson. In real life, he becomes homeless as well as destitute, and ends up sitting on street corners begging for change because he was driven by desperation. Look at each individual proposed trade. Evaluate whether it improves your team and its outlook, or makes it worse. Then decide. If it isn't enough, who knows? Maybe in the next year the horse will learn to sing. Yeah... the point was pretty much that the fact that a trade hasn't happened means that Daryl Morey believes that such a trade offer hasn't been made. If, in his estimation some offer satisfied those conditions, he would have pulled the trigger. I've seen nothing that makes me believe he would be playing games.
I think the Warriors might be the third team for a trade with the Knicks ... http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yhfopro => Knicks would love to trade for T-Mac, so they get him with this trade. We give them Taylor also, cheap contract and could become nice bench player next year. Watson 'replaces' Robinson and has expiring contract. Wright has a bigger contract than Marcus Landry, but they can trade or cut him this summer to get more cap space. => Warriors aren't very pleased with Ellis at all, but the guy is very talented and is a big time playmaker. They are getting Robinson, who can play next to Curry IMO. Hughes is an expiring contract and brings some experience that Nelson likes. Marcus Landry and Douglas are just cheap fillers. => Rockets get a talented and big time playmaker SG in Ellis (for years). Morrow is a nice and cheap playing SG, he is also expiring. (http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/64668/20100213/morrow_could_be_a_trade_commodity/) Mobley's contract plus trade exception (of Q. Richardson, Knicks) seal the deal and give the Rockets some space to resign Lowry and/or Landry. Ellis and Morrow would love to play in the Rockets system, right now. Rockets line-up: C: Hayes/Anderson/Dorsey (and Yao) PF: Scola/Landry/Cook SF: Ariza/Battier/Budinger SG: Ellis/Morrow/Temple PG: Brooks/Lowry
Morey specifically mentioned in an article something about a sign and trade being the best option in the summer
I agree with what you are saying but you cant assume that all those teams have a better shot at a championship. Winning a championship in a professional sport contains A LOT OF LUCK. What i mean by this is, getting calls down the stretch, staying healthy, and smart coaching decisions. The Rockets team right now has the recipe for a championship team. With Yao back, I think we are one stud player away from challenging anyone. Most of you forgot that we could have beaten the Lakers last year if Yao had stayed healthy. We were a championship team last year if Yao had not gone down and that was with RON ARTEST. I guarantee you game 7 would have been alot closer and we owned Denver last year. What could've been takes luck and last year our luck ran out with Yao. P.S. I think could've still beaten LA if we had Deke too.
Good trade. Not only would we get Ellis, but we would also get Morrow? I'm VERY high on Anthony Morrow.
A Houston-Philadelphia-New York trade could still work: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ykzgrkv It's a general idea I guess.
The problem is that so many people on this BBS believe that #3 is an option if they can make something work in ESPN trade checker. Example: McGrady traded straight up for Butler/Haywood. So many sit back going 'oh noes - why didnt u do this deel Morrrey?' (these people can't spell either). But the reality is that such a deal might have been declined by Washington - OR they might have actually preferred the deal with Dallas (essentially the same deal, but they get to have a look at Howard, Gooden, Singleton and assess if they want to keep any of those pieces, and at the same time managed to ditch another $4million in salary for next season. The thing is that we have nothing to lose by waiting - we're not going to win anything this season, so all we could do is screw ourselves by making a bad move OR wait for someone to freak and gift us something (big name or young talent). But it might not happen - no big deal if it doesn't IMO. Oh - and even if we miss the playoffs this season, we get a lottery pick - who knows what Morey can do with that!
otto, i'm not trying to outdue the mavs or any other team, but the rockets best player is at the stage where they should think that way and get as many high caliber players possible. I've said many times dallas can offer a better deal than the rockets and they have a deal closer. Say what u will about cuban, but since he's been in dallas,they have been a better organization than the rockets. Not only do they make as much money as the rox without the cash cow, but they have won more and been further. They've shuffled players in and out and have still won games. When they feel they "need" a guy, they go get him. Not only that, they still have a trump card in dampier in play if they choose to use. Maybe i see what others are ignoring.
That's what he should do. He has already made a mistake by going after Kevin Martin. Fortunately,it hasn't panned out.
