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Morey:FIRST HUGE MISTAKE!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rocketman2000, Feb 18, 2010.

  1. FoOLiSh_AzN

    FoOLiSh_AzN Member

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    i miss landry too and he is a good/nice guy. but have to look at other points....his contract is ending after this year his agent might demand a lot more money since he is having a career year but when Yao comes back, landry will not have all of his oppotunities in the post..his numbers will decline. scola plays better with yao than landry.

    but make no mistake that i am sad and diasppointed that he had to be involved in this deal.
     
  2. agpal77

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    Just Shoot Me!! :mad:
     
  3. Chiron

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    Great move by DM... Let's make sure the Knicks and Kings dont make this a better deal.
     
  4. sephiroth.hk

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    Morey first huge mistake should be Gay & Battier Move... :(
     
  5. dexkk

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    We should at least give Morey some more time to make adjustments to the roster. I hope he finds others ways to plug our front court depth whether by getting Jordan Hill (prospect) from the Knicks or trade/sign in the off season.
     
  6. HRocketsFan

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    I'm sure he didn't, but he was determined to get Kevin Martin and probably had Scola up for trade initially, but the Kings chose Landry instead. Could you blame them?
     
  7. Rocket 914

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    Kevin Martin is really good but we'll miss a PF who can finish quickly and strongly inside - if Jordan Hill or somebody can fill that then we're ok!
     
  8. rockets934life

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    It's funny, I just read the trade thread and its incredible how everyone went from an all time high to a low when Landry's name came up. Lets see...

    All star caliber SG - Check
    Get under the LT - Check
    Big Man who can defend paint - Check
    No bad contracts - Check and Kmart's deal is truly not bad

    I think Morey did a nice job and I LOVE Carl "The Tooth" Landry but lets be reasonable, the guy has improved his game yet no defense or rebounding from the guy and teams where beginning to figure out how to guard him. Martin shooting percentage is down this season but overall is a 45 percent shooter...THE GUY WILL BE DYNAMITE and Rox fans will love that guy.

    Oh and by the way...Landry avgs 5.5 boards a game...Martin avgs 4.3 boards.
     
  9. TXRoxBBall

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    Why not just get the Knicks involved and send Hill, the picks and Jeffries to Sac, Houston keep Landry and get Martin, and sack NW with McLazy.
     
  10. vinsensual

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    Morey's first huge mistake was not pulling the trigger on Tmac with Detroit. Any 2 of Billups, Rip, or Prince would have been gold compared to what we got out of Mcgrady last year.
     
  11. dexkk

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    What are you talking about? Rip and Prince are done. Better thank Morey for dodging that bullet.
     
  12. SouthMJS

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    excellent move!

    guys, morey traded a 6th man power forward for a 27 year old 20+ ppg shooting guard

    it don't get much better than that
     
  13. BetterThanEver

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    Look at the benefits.

    At least, we don't have to work hard in photoshop, when Martin breaks something. We can substitute Martin's head on all the old McGrady injury photoshopped pictures.
     
  14. intergalactic

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    Landry is great, but this trade is a slam dunk in every way except the risk of Martin getting reinjured. But his injuries have been relatively minor (groin pull a couple of years ago, bad ankle sprain last year, and wrist injury to his non-shooting hand), and he's bounced back in every case.

    The $ aspects, though, are pretty amazing. Martin probably has the best contract in the league for a SG of his caliber, and everybody else is expiring. We might even be able to sign a reasonable free agent in the offseason.
     
  15. llRainmanll

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    6/7 behind the 3pt arc last game, Ariza has officially redeemed himself. If you add in Battier, they went 12/13 from the 3pt arc together, so no bad moves happened/will happen with them. :p
     
  16. Blake

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    actually adelman didn't play deke when we signed him last season...so blame him
     
  17. ken

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    This organization is a joke..... :confused: morey just set us back :mad: fuc* morey.... why not scola,shane,chuck :mad:
     
  18. stipendlax

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    $46 mil over the next 3 years for a guy that has missed an average of 26 games these last two years (2007 and 2008) and has already missed 32 games this season. Not to mention we just gave up our best scoring option off the bench.

    Still may be too early to tell but if this deal stands as is, we got juped.
     
  19. bigkstrong

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    This might be posted somewhere on the site, but I just woke up and there are too many threads to look through. This Kevin Martin's scouting report.

    http://www.kingsfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28674

    Kevin Martin
    Position: SG
    Hgt: 6'7"
    Wgt: 185
    Age: 26
    Number: 23
    Nickname: The Flying Platypus
    College: Western Carolina
    Yrs with Team: 5
    Yrs in League: 5
    Previous Teams: N/A
    How Acquired: 2004 Draft Rnd 1 (#26)
    Contract: 2009-10: $10.2mil; 2010-11: $11.1mil; 2011-12: $12.0mil; 2012-13: $12.9mil
    Strengths: speed & quickness, great range, ability to draw fouls
    Weaknesses: defensive effort, does not create for teammates, durability concerns

    Offense (Scoring & Passing)
    One of the league's best scorers, and scores in virtually every way, off the drive, on the break, from three, and from the line. Super efficiency of his early career has faded as defenses have keyed on him, and last season posted a career low .420 shooting percentage. Still averaged nearly 25ppg however with a potent combination of exceptional quickness and speed, complimented by deadeye outside shooting, esepcially with his feet set. Does not have great one on one or ballhandling skills, but is expert at coming off screens, and finding angles and seams if his opponent is off balance. Is also one of the tougher players to guard off the ball in the league, moving constantly and taking advantage of inattentive defense. Does have a tendency to tire and slow down in this respect late in games. Claims to have modeled his game after Rip Hamilton and Reggie Miller, and in one respect certainly has: he flops. A lot. Constantly looking for contact, and if he can't find it, will create it. Was second in the league in FTs drawn last season (to Dwight Howard) after leading the league the year before. Continues to convert them at a very high rate (87%), which helped buoy his efficiency stats even as his FG shooting percentage fell for the 4th straight year. Sometimes gets too interested in drawing the foul, and can miss easy shots while searching for contact. Still has a funky windup on his shot that slows it down, but has smoothed it out over the years, and the most important thing is that it goes in. Deadly shooter from three when left open, posting a career high .415 from deep last season, but not as effective if challenged. Continues to get opponents to bite on his pump fake, as the combination of fear of his outside shot along with his quickness causes many a defender to bite and regret it. Still very skinny, but has bulked up from his rookie year, and is better able to finish through contact. Has a particularly potent one handed floater on the drive. Loves to get out on the break and use his speed. In fact at least some of his defensive woes (see below) are because of this trait. Has solid passing skills, but rarely creates for teammates. Lack of ballhandling and scorer's mentality mean normally looking for the shot, not the pass. Has made more of an effort to function as a passer as talent has bled from the team around him, but has struggled with the role and has seen his turnovers rise every season partly as a result.


    Defense & Rebounding
    Nowhere near the defender he should be, and last season saw a near complete collapse on this side of the ball. Early in his career actually showed a combination of feistiness when being posted despite his extremely skinny build combined with the quickness to guard some PGs. Rarely see that intensity anymore though, and one assumes that its because of a focus on scoring. Is mistake prone on defense, often turning his head or losing his man. Lack of strength is a problem inside. Gets some steals up top by using his speed to jump on lazy crosscourt passes, but rarely picks his own man, and gets relatively few steals for someone with his quickness. Can be effective coming back to help on the glass with his athleticism, but just as often prefers to leak out looking for the easy score. This applies defensively as well, where he will often head upcourt before the ball is secured. With Ron Artest gone last season, and John Salmons traded midseason, defense was really exposed as the year ran on, and troublingly appeared to almost quit on that side of the ball at times. A lingering ankle injury was sometimes pointed to as a culprit, but it seemed to have much less effect on his play on the other side of the ball.


    Intangibles
    Quiet demeanor on and off court has contributed to popularity and reputation as a "nice guy", but perhaps too nice to function as an effective leader. Despite gaudy offensive stats, struggled in many intangible areas last year: unable to establish himself as the team leader despite being its best player, went through a horrid two month long stretch where he repeatedly made critical errors in clutch situations, and sat out a long stretch of the season with what intially seemed to be a relatively minor injury, again raising concerns about his durability (he has missed a combined 52 games the past two seasons) and whether his slight frame can withstand a full season of punishment as a primary option. On a more positive note, closed the season in style, finally scoring 50pts in a game against the Warriors before shutting it down and taking the rest of the season off. Will be interesting to see how well he meshes with rookie PG Tyreke Evans, an offensive minded ball dominant player.


    Stats 08-09: 38.2min 24.6pts (.420 FG% .415 3pt% .867 FT%) 3.6reb 2.7ast 1.2stl 0.2blk 2.9TO
    Stats Career: 30.3min 16.9pts (.454 FG% .389 3pt% .852 FT%) 3.6reb 1.8ast 0.9stl 0.1blk 1.7TO
     
  20. CaptainRox

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    I love the team now even Trevor Ariza but why didn't we trade Scola instead of Landry? Landry had more upside Daryl! *sigh*
     

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